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Why why why??? Why does the FS always take the deep middle 3rd on this play. He is suppose to be in a cover 2. He should drop straight back and not go to the middle of the field. This is one of my bread and butter plays and I am tired of watching teams beat it because my stupid FS does not know how to play a cover 2.

Is this a bug? Could the code be making him play the middle deep 3rd instead of a cover 2?

On a similar note, what skill makes the FS decide which guy to cover? Also the CB in coverage on that side acts like he is about to take the WR going deep but breaks off at the last second (conveniently right when the QB throws the ball) to cover the short route WR.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/194965/2027411

Unfortunately your CB is covering 2 WRs and believes he has help up top from the FS. So that is probably why he took the short route as opposed to the deep route. As for your FS... I got nothing on why he went deep-mid instead of the cover 2 spot.

I figured it out.

The FS said, "Fuck it! Our offense has put up zero points. There is nothing I can do to save this team. I'm gonna do whatever the hell I want!"

I watched about 30 of these plays of mine and found only one where the FS dropped straight back and covered the deep route.

Is it coverage tech or zone that contributes to his decision on who to take and where to go?

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
I watched about 30 of these plays of mine and found only one where the FS dropped straight back and covered the deep route.

Is it coverage tech or zone that contributes to his decision on who to take and where to go?

Zone awareness.

See the following:

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5235281

Originally posted by Rob.
Zone awareness.

Ok...he has 55 zone right now. I will pump it more and see if that helps. I am maxing him out at 97 so we'll find out if zone is the skill.

there are certain route combinations that eat cover 2 for breakfast even irl. Having a corner route with an underneath WR and the TE running a post is the definition of a cover 2 beater. Haven't you ever heard of the "smash" concept?

But the FS isn't even going to his zone. He is dropping to the middle deep 3rd, not his side of the deep 3rd. He has no business going to the middle of the field. If he would just stay in his zone and pick up the WR running deep, it would be fine.

Anyway...I'll keep the results posted on how zone awareness effects this issue. I just added 4 points today and will add 4 more after my game today.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
But the FS isn't even going to his zone. He is dropping to the middle deep 3rd, not his side of the deep 3rd. He has no business going to the middle of the field. If he would just stay in his zone and pick up the WR running deep, it would be fine.

Not sure what you're talking about. The FS very clearly does drop back towards his half opposite the strong safety for the first ~20 ticks of the play in the replay you linked. He then simply makes a bad read and goes for the TE instead of WR3. It happens in Cover 2. That's why straight Cover 2 isn't really viable outside of maybe some redzone looks where your underneath coverage has enough depth to threaten back of the endzone type passes.

So he makes a bad read on every single play?

Why does he pick up the TE? The TE is on the other side of the field and is already picked up by the MLB. That was also my question of "which skill helps the FS determine which receiver to pick up?". Rob said zone so I will test it out. Hopefully if I pump zone high enough, he will pick up the "correct" receiver, which is the WR on his side of the field.

It's not that it's a bad read, it's that you're putting him in a position where it's literally impossible to make a good read. That's what the smash concept creates. It puts the safety on that side of the field in an impossible situation. He can either cover the deep corner route, which leads to an easy completion to the seam route, or he can cover the seam route, which leads to an easy completion to the deep corner route. If the CB takes the corner route and the FS takes the seam, you have an easy completion underneath. You've got to realize, this isn't a sim issue or a logic issue, it's a playcall issue. Don't fucking call cover 2 against TE post, it's the definition of a smash concept. Do a google job for "smash concept", then report back with what you've learned.

Whatever dude....no way in hell should the FS that is covering the left side of the field try to pick up the TE on the other side of the field when the MLB and SS is closer to him. I could understand if the FS had to decide between the 2 WRs on his side, if the inside WR ran a seem route and the outside WR ran a corner route.

You should probably cut both the FS and CB and replace them with rookies