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Cuivienen
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Do you guys think strip tech is necessary to force fumbles in a tackle, or is power tackling enough on its own?

Do you think strip tech even influences one on one tackles, or is it more of a tackle assist type skill?
 
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I'll say this. Darth Vader has never invested one SP into strip tech.
 
Mezirah
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I see strip tech as the chance cause a fumble or knock a pass loose every tackling roll every tick. Power tackling gives an added bonus to the initial hit. I would have both skills. Most strips happen on contact.
 
Galithor
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I've always felt it's about even with power tackling in causing fumbles. Power tackling does more than just increase fumbles though. It also helps stop forward progress of the ball carrier.

It's not easy to invest into strength on many defensive builds, particularly in the secondary. Strip Technique can increase your turnover potential simply.

You're going to need to really pump it though, and even then you might not like the payoff for investment.
 
Aeir
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I was tempted to try a strip tech build with a few defenders, using just tackle grip and strip tech. Thought process being as a ball carrier is dragging a defender up and down the field, you get that many more chances to cause a fumble... but it's really hard to pull off since they use different attributes for the required skills. Could tack on opportunist and death grip...so when the second guy gets there, there's an even bigger chance of a fumble. Highly doubt it's worth it though...
Edited by Aeir on Jan 9, 2015 11:18:23
 
Galithor
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Just for a point of reference. I've got 5 identically built CBs on Rhode Island Falcons. they've all got exactly 62 strip technique/64 power tackling. Gold Monster Hit. Silver Opportunist.

In 20 games, the 5 CBs have combined for a total of 13 forced fumbles. I'd hardly call .65 fumbles per game worthwhile. How much better would it be if perhaps one of the two skills were up in the 80s? No idea.

I can't imagine going even harder for fumbles would be beneficial to their coverage capabilities, and they're already letting up a 55% rec allowed rate. That's about 15% worse than the better coverage CBs that are holding receivers down closer to ~40%. They do create more KLs than a typical secondary, but it's hardly worth it judging from the rec allowed ratio.

Also, Rhode Island isn't playing against the best teams in the game very often. They're in the 20-40 range for a typical ladder matchup. So these stats stand to be worse as Rhode Island eases up the ladder. If that's even possible with such a mediocre set of CBs.
 
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Hard hitting CBs rock in zone defenses.
 


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