I have had 4 game with the same team to see WTF I am doing wrong. It is all over the place. Starters only playing 4 plays and then next game they get 30+. Some guys getting 70 while other get none. The depth chart it set so everyone is frequent. Seems to just be on D. O has always been the same What gives?
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I'm guessing you're missing the fact that the quantity of nickel/dime/quarter calls during a game is going affect your LB and CB play counts, as well as be determined by the opposing offensive play calls.
If you're goal is purely for even play counts at those positions, you'd need to buffer your depth chart and playbook appropriately based on an opponent's expected offense.
I'm guessing you're missing the fact that the quantity of nickel/dime/quarter calls during a game is going affect your LB and CB play counts, as well as be determined by the opposing offensive play calls.
If you're goal is purely for even play counts at those positions, you'd need to buffer your depth chart and playbook appropriately based on an opponent's expected offense.
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Also, your conditioning and toughness will impact it, as well as whether a player does special teams or not, and how your drives play out.
Example: Starting O-lineman is on Special Teams return unit. Does a punt return. Starter has low conditioning, and his backup has really high conditioning relatively. Starter will sit the first play or two at least while recovering from the special teams play. Maybe 3 straight plays where the backup still has higher energy. If you go 3 and out, the starter wouldn't have ever gotten a chance to return to the field on that drive. If you go 3 and out a bunch, he'll see very few actual plays.
there's definitely some skill required in balancing the depth chart and managing special teams snaps to get everyone in the right spots to equitably share the load on energy.
Example: Starting O-lineman is on Special Teams return unit. Does a punt return. Starter has low conditioning, and his backup has really high conditioning relatively. Starter will sit the first play or two at least while recovering from the special teams play. Maybe 3 straight plays where the backup still has higher energy. If you go 3 and out, the starter wouldn't have ever gotten a chance to return to the field on that drive. If you go 3 and out a bunch, he'll see very few actual plays.
there's definitely some skill required in balancing the depth chart and managing special teams snaps to get everyone in the right spots to equitably share the load on energy.
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What positions?
I'm guessing you're missing the fact that the quantity of nickel/dime/quarter calls during a game is going affect your LB and CB play counts, as well as be determined by the opposing offensive play calls.
If you're goal is purely for even play counts at those positions, you'd need to buffer your depth chart and playbook appropriately based on an opponent's expected offense.
mostly CB and LB ans yes I know about different D having an effect. More I guess to understand it better. One of the star Cbs will have a game where he gets 40 plays then like 3. He is starter at CB2 with only 2 backups and set to sometimes. My other CB is set to CB1. He always gets he plays in no matter what and I don't use any 1 CB D all 2CB or better.
I have never set a ST Depth chart in 8 season. have yet to have to but that could be the problem but like I said never have I ever set one. Any insight on how to get the best out of everyone? should back ups play more st, should I have O players play on the kick off and punt to save on the D players? conditions is on ave 40-50 for all D players and O players .
What positions?
I'm guessing you're missing the fact that the quantity of nickel/dime/quarter calls during a game is going affect your LB and CB play counts, as well as be determined by the opposing offensive play calls.
If you're goal is purely for even play counts at those positions, you'd need to buffer your depth chart and playbook appropriately based on an opponent's expected offense.
mostly CB and LB ans yes I know about different D having an effect. More I guess to understand it better. One of the star Cbs will have a game where he gets 40 plays then like 3. He is starter at CB2 with only 2 backups and set to sometimes. My other CB is set to CB1. He always gets he plays in no matter what and I don't use any 1 CB D all 2CB or better.
I have never set a ST Depth chart in 8 season. have yet to have to but that could be the problem but like I said never have I ever set one. Any insight on how to get the best out of everyone? should back ups play more st, should I have O players play on the kick off and punt to save on the D players? conditions is on ave 40-50 for all D players and O players .
Originally posted by cyberninja
Even conditioning/stamina at every position.
we have that for 90% of the team. We don't have build plans as a team but condition was one I asks to hit a number for the team.
the messed up part about this is. The starter who is wacky in game snaps has 49 con and my CB the other starter tat gets his in in every game has only 37 and that is maxed out.
Even conditioning/stamina at every position.
we have that for 90% of the team. We don't have build plans as a team but condition was one I asks to hit a number for the team.
the messed up part about this is. The starter who is wacky in game snaps has 49 con and my CB the other starter tat gets his in in every game has only 37 and that is maxed out.
Edited by joe on Jan 7, 2015 10:31:28
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If you're not setting up a special teams depth chart, I'd wager that's the biggest issue you're facing.
Others can probably give better advice than myself on that. In general though, yes defensive guys on coverage teams, preferably decent tacklers, and offensive blocker type builds on return teams.
Others can probably give better advice than myself on that. In general though, yes defensive guys on coverage teams, preferably decent tacklers, and offensive blocker type builds on return teams.
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The 37 to 49 thing is probably also part of the issue. Special teams left to it's own devices is probably always picking your 49 conditioning starter because it always sees him with more available energy. At which point your special teams proceeds to torch his available energy. Leaving him unavailable for many defensive plays.
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Originally posted by joe
I have never set a ST Depth chart in 8 season.
You're really missing out on optimizing the performance of your team.
You should have a Standard ST Depth Chart set up. Example: put both FS in one slot of Kick Coverage. Highest energy gets used.
You should then have a ST Depth Chart setup for the Pure O teams. Example: Against an all pass-team, you put all your Break Run Block Defenders on KR/PR Coverage duty. Burn their energy so they don't sub out the Pass specialists.
So you should have 3 ST Depth Charts setup (Balanced, vs. Run teams, vs. Pass teams). And yes, you set them up position by position; not GLB random.
I have never set a ST Depth chart in 8 season.
You're really missing out on optimizing the performance of your team.
You should have a Standard ST Depth Chart set up. Example: put both FS in one slot of Kick Coverage. Highest energy gets used.
You should then have a ST Depth Chart setup for the Pure O teams. Example: Against an all pass-team, you put all your Break Run Block Defenders on KR/PR Coverage duty. Burn their energy so they don't sub out the Pass specialists.
So you should have 3 ST Depth Charts setup (Balanced, vs. Run teams, vs. Pass teams). And yes, you set them up position by position; not GLB random.
Edited by Xars on Jan 7, 2015 17:06:16
Edited by Xars on Jan 7, 2015 17:05:33
Originally posted by Galithor
The 37 to 49 thing is probably also part of the issue. Special teams left to it's own devices is probably always picking your 49 conditioning starter because it always sees him with more available energy. At which point your special teams proceeds to torch his available energy. Leaving him unavailable for many defensive plays.
ThisOriginally posted by Xars
You're really missing out on optimizing the performance of your team.
You should have a Standard ST Depth Chart set up. Example: put both FS in one slot of Kick Coverage. Highest energy gets used.
You should then have a ST Depth Chart setup for the Pure O teams. Example: Against an all pass-team, you put all your Break Run Block Defenders on KR/PR Coverage duty. Burn their energy so they don't sub out the Pass specialists.
So you should have 3 ST Depth Charts setup (Balanced, vs. Run teams, vs. Pass teams). And yes, you set them up position by position; not GLB random.
And this
It's also critical to have a back-up at every ST position, otherwise you#ll continue to get these wild discrepancies.
The 37 to 49 thing is probably also part of the issue. Special teams left to it's own devices is probably always picking your 49 conditioning starter because it always sees him with more available energy. At which point your special teams proceeds to torch his available energy. Leaving him unavailable for many defensive plays.
ThisOriginally posted by Xars
You're really missing out on optimizing the performance of your team.
You should have a Standard ST Depth Chart set up. Example: put both FS in one slot of Kick Coverage. Highest energy gets used.
You should then have a ST Depth Chart setup for the Pure O teams. Example: Against an all pass-team, you put all your Break Run Block Defenders on KR/PR Coverage duty. Burn their energy so they don't sub out the Pass specialists.
So you should have 3 ST Depth Charts setup (Balanced, vs. Run teams, vs. Pass teams). And yes, you set them up position by position; not GLB random.
And this
It's also critical to have a back-up at every ST position, otherwise you#ll continue to get these wild discrepancies.
Originally posted by Xars
You're really missing out on optimizing the performance of your team.
You should have a Standard ST Depth Chart set up. Example: put both FS in one slot of Kick Coverage. Highest energy gets used.
You should then have a ST Depth Chart setup for the Pure O teams. Example: Against an all pass-team, you put all your Break Run Block Defenders on KR/PR Coverage duty. Burn their energy so they don't sub out the Pass specialists.
So you should have 3 ST Depth Charts setup (Balanced, vs. Run teams, vs. Pass teams). And yes, you set them up position by position; not GLB random.
thnaks man. Cna always count on your posts. YOur a special player on this game to give the info you do. Specially to a team you play 2 time and a good chance for a 3rd. thanks again. that looks like a lot of time I going to be farting around with.
You're really missing out on optimizing the performance of your team.
You should have a Standard ST Depth Chart set up. Example: put both FS in one slot of Kick Coverage. Highest energy gets used.
You should then have a ST Depth Chart setup for the Pure O teams. Example: Against an all pass-team, you put all your Break Run Block Defenders on KR/PR Coverage duty. Burn their energy so they don't sub out the Pass specialists.
So you should have 3 ST Depth Charts setup (Balanced, vs. Run teams, vs. Pass teams). And yes, you set them up position by position; not GLB random.
thnaks man. Cna always count on your posts. YOur a special player on this game to give the info you do. Specially to a team you play 2 time and a good chance for a 3rd. thanks again. that looks like a lot of time I going to be farting around with.
Ok xars. DO you have guys that never set foot on ST? Like your star WR? Seems ST takes a lot our of a player. And I only carry 4 WR so don't want to deplete something that has not been
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Originally posted by joe
I have had 4 game with the same team to see WTF I am doing wrong. It is all over the place. Starters only playing 4 plays and then next game they get 30+. Some guys getting 70 while other get none. The depth chart it set so everyone is frequent. Seems to just be on D. O has always been the same What gives?
Two issues normally contribute to perceived "random" PT discrepancies . . .
1. Conditioning differences. If a starter has 25 conditioning and a backup has 40 (or vice versa) then you are going to see discrepancies.
2. Special Teams. ST's snaps sap energy fiercely, so anyone playing ST's is going to miss significant snaps on offense or defense unless they ratchet up conditioning.
I have had 4 game with the same team to see WTF I am doing wrong. It is all over the place. Starters only playing 4 plays and then next game they get 30+. Some guys getting 70 while other get none. The depth chart it set so everyone is frequent. Seems to just be on D. O has always been the same What gives?
Two issues normally contribute to perceived "random" PT discrepancies . . .
1. Conditioning differences. If a starter has 25 conditioning and a backup has 40 (or vice versa) then you are going to see discrepancies.
2. Special Teams. ST's snaps sap energy fiercely, so anyone playing ST's is going to miss significant snaps on offense or defense unless they ratchet up conditioning.
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Ya exactly joe. I treat WR's and CB's as technical players like a QB. Because any slight drop in morale affects your ability to catch or deflect a pass, and I see the CIT battle as the most important battle in the game. So I protect those players from any kind of blocking interaction during special teams. This semi-includes safeties if you can. So superstars will play special teams, to protect these precious positions.
Another trick is to put your blocking TE and blocking FB, your punisher intimidation guys, matched up against CB's on extra points. Most teams put CB's on the field goal block charts which is a mistake. Here you can see my boys rip off about 6 morale from each CB on this play http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/143409/2018782
Alternatively you can force similar match ups on the kickoff etc if you scout. A few good pancakes on a CB or FS is pretty big when it comes to throwing passing vs the guy if he's preforming lower due to morale loss from some healthy beat downs. Scouting ST can be game changing, I'll do it in playoffs or must-win games.
Another trick is to put your blocking TE and blocking FB, your punisher intimidation guys, matched up against CB's on extra points. Most teams put CB's on the field goal block charts which is a mistake. Here you can see my boys rip off about 6 morale from each CB on this play http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/143409/2018782
Alternatively you can force similar match ups on the kickoff etc if you scout. A few good pancakes on a CB or FS is pretty big when it comes to throwing passing vs the guy if he's preforming lower due to morale loss from some healthy beat downs. Scouting ST can be game changing, I'll do it in playoffs or must-win games.
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Originally posted by joe
Ok xars. DO you have guys that never set foot on ST? Like your star WR? Seems ST takes a lot our of a player. And I only carry 4 WR so don't want to deplete something that has not been
I went through just to check.
KR & PR Coverage with FG block are all 100% D players - for obvious reasons.
KR, PR and FG are OLine in the middle with LBs and CBs on the edges.
So none of my WR play ST, as I'm light on my O roster, but heavy on D.
Ok xars. DO you have guys that never set foot on ST? Like your star WR? Seems ST takes a lot our of a player. And I only carry 4 WR so don't want to deplete something that has not been
I went through just to check.
KR & PR Coverage with FG block are all 100% D players - for obvious reasons.
KR, PR and FG are OLine in the middle with LBs and CBs on the edges.
So none of my WR play ST, as I'm light on my O roster, but heavy on D.
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