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In the first few seasons the game would not allow this to happen, but now teams can and are taking advantage of it. We should not be able to have a passing qb and rushing qb and they play only in certain formations.

As it currently stands one can have their rushing qb never pass if they are only set in the GL formations. This is an abuse of what was being avoided since a defense can't tag. In the first few seasons many teams tried to do this but found out it wasn't allowed and their rushing qb would be in on passing situations not in the GL formation and the passing guy would play some in the GL situations.

I don't know what was changed but it should go back to how it was. All QBs should play from all formations.

You have always been able to have a different depth chart for GL formation since season 1. I don't see it hurting anything because you cannot pass out of GL, which means that you will have a run stuffing defense in the playbook anyway. Past sophomore, any team that uses an exclusive GL rushing QB and a regular passing QB are just wasting massive cap space.

I think that you are thinking of the bug from early seasons where teams could put a HB at QB and have him run the QB rollouts. That was fixed a while back

Originally posted by Stixx
You have always been able to have a different depth chart for GL formation since season 1. I don't see it hurting anything because you cannot pass out of GL, which means that you will have a run stuffing defense in the playbook anyway. Past sophomore, any team that uses an exclusive GL rushing QB and a regular passing QB are just wasting massive cap space.

I think that you are thinking of the bug from early seasons where teams could put a HB at QB and have him run the QB rollouts. That was fixed a while back

IDK i think tem may be right, i recall not being able to have the perfect set up in S1-3 like they do now. But like you said, past sophmore it isn't really financially feasible imo.

Hell, as a huge fan of the rQB, I would be for even more control. Formation specific DCs for the offense would be a great start. Then let the defense have play books selected for 2 different QBs. Just QBs, not any other position for either side.

Let the thumbs down flow like wine.

If a team is reserving a QB spot for 1 formation only, then that is their loss. That's salary cap space wasted for 2 QB rush plays. They will rack up good stats against mediocre teams, but any good coordinator can shut those down.

Originally posted by Rob.
If a team is reserving a QB spot for 1 formation only, then that is their loss. That's salary cap space wasted for 2 QB rush plays. They will rack up good stats against mediocre teams, but any good coordinator can shut those down.

Truth!

But I feel that limiting rQBs to GL only on balanced offenses makes rQBs way too 1 dimensional. We all know that with the current meta it is impossible to make a successful veteran dual threat QB, hell nobody can make a successful veteran rushing QB. Adding the ability to designate a formation to a certain QB would help make them viable in the upper tiers.

Originally posted by DeeVee8
Truth!

But I feel that limiting rQBs to GL only on balanced offenses makes rQBs way too 1 dimensional. We all know that with the current meta it is impossible to make a successful veteran dual threat QB, hell nobody can make a successful veteran rushing QB. Adding the ability to designate a formation to a certain QB would help make them viable in the upper tiers.

Yeah it would be nice to have formation specific depth charts, but it may give offenses even more of an advantage. If that were to happen, defense may need some kind of boost.

The defense would need tags if that were to happen, and I think they were trying to avoid that in this version of the game.

Originally posted by DeeVee8
Hell, as a huge fan of the rQB, I would be for even more control. Formation specific DCs for the offense would be a great start. Then let the defense have play books selected for 2 different QBs. Just QBs, not any other position for either side.

Let the thumbs down flow like wine.

Fuck no. Because it needs to be depth charts, tactics, AND playbooks on D. I would want less blitzing vs some QBs, more vs the other. I'd want run-stuffing corners in (got one of those on your Drunks, btw), instead of burried in the back of the DC. Plus I'd have to scout which HB running plays are ALSO run with each QB, and account for those as well.

There is no feasable way to make this work, without making about half the game's DCs quit. Kill formation specific depth charts, kill them with fire, and get rid of the current GL exploit.

Whatevs Potts. Don't be scurred of the monster I could create.

I guess, sometimes...late at night, I miss the depth of classic. I still enjoy 2 waaay more though. Its so much less demanding and confusing due mostly to the DC restrictions.

I think it's more effective to use different depth charts to change qb's based on who your playing (with a whole proper playbook) than try the GL flopping QB's in the same game. IMO of course.

Originally posted by pottsman
Fuck no. Because it needs to be depth charts, tactics, AND playbooks on D. I would want less blitzing vs some QBs, more vs the other. I'd want run-stuffing corners in (got one of those on your Drunks, btw), instead of burried in the back of the DC. Plus I'd have to scout which HB running plays are ALSO run with each QB, and account for those as well.

There is no feasable way to make this work, without making about half the game's DCs quit. Kill formation specific depth charts, kill them with fire, and get rid of the current GL exploit.

I agree in getting rid of the current GL exploit. Although like some said above, it gets expensive after soph to do it, but still a pain to deal with as a DC

Stixx...

You are wrong. It wasnt possible in Season 1 and maybe 2. It would still pull the QB from the "normal" QB postion, not caring if you only put in one in GL.

I said this is bullshit since it was possible but many argued that its totally fine. I still think its crap, and should be removed like 5 seasons ago!

This game didnt want to have specific players for specific formations, so why allów an exception there? bullshit, nothing to add