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When deciding which defensive play to call, does it use man/zone or blitz/no blitz 1st? So, if I have 2 plays, 1 is zone, no blitz and 1 is man, blitz, and I set my tactics to 100 on both zone and blitz, which play will be selected?
 
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I could be wrong, but I belive it would call whichever play had a higher priority setting (or at least call that play more often). If they are at the same priority setting then I think it would just call each one 50% of the time based on a RNG.
 
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Originally posted by nortobc
When deciding which defensive play to call, does it use man/zone or blitz/no blitz 1st? So, if I have 2 plays, 1 is zone, no blitz and 1 is man, blitz, and I set my tactics to 100 on both zone and blitz, which play will be selected?


Don't do that
 
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It picks short/medium/long/inside/outside first. The play that is selected will be determined on how those plays are labeled and what numbers you have in the short/medium/inside/outside boxes. Zone and blitz only come into play if you have more than 1 play in your playbook for the same category.
 
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Originally posted by nortobc
When deciding which defensive play to call, does it use man/zone or blitz/no blitz 1st? So, if I have 2 plays, 1 is zone, no blitz and 1 is man, blitz, and I set my tactics to 100 on both zone and blitz, which play will be selected?


Flip a coin.

The sim wouldn't find a play to meet your requirements, so it's pick randomly based just on the playbook priority settings.
 
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I would guess first it will determine based on your % which type of play to call (pass or run defense), then it would look for a play that is both blitz and zone since you have both blitz and zone at 100% since you don't have a play in your playbook to match this scenario random things can happen it might even run a play that is in the playbook database but not in your playbook but most closely matches what you have settings set to so a blitz zone play for that formation is what it would probably call.
 
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1> picks S/M/L/I/O based on your percentages.
2> picks M/Z based on your percentages.
3> picks Blitz based on your percentages.
4> determines offensive formation.
5> picks play from your playbook based on those four criteria.

If play does not exist in playbooks for formation with all three other criteria, game randomly picks a play from the entire defensive play list without regard for any of the criteria... ie. Goal Line Inside Run against 5WR.
 
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Originally posted by moghedan
If play does not exist in playbooks for formation with all three other criteria, game randomly picks a play from the entire defensive play list without regard for any of the criteria... ie. Goal Line Inside Run against 5WR.


That's wrong.

It will still only pick from the proper page in the playbook, and it will consider playbook priority settings.
 
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Unless it has been fixed since season 2...

It will pick plays that are not in your playbook and make absolutely no sense.
 
InRomoWeTrust
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Originally posted by moghedan
It will pick plays that are not in your playbook and make absolutely no sense.


never been that way
Edited by InRomoWeTrust on Jun 16, 2014 12:03:30
 
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I had a playbook with 2 blitz plays in all defensive slot (except goalline) one zone and one man. My tactics were 0% blitz and zone from 0% to 70% in different slots. However it only ever called the man play. I changed it to 50% zone, 100% blitz and ran another game and it still called the man play 100%. I have noticed that if you mix man and zone plays in the playbook, it only ever calls the man plays. If they are all zone, or all man, then it calls them correctly by the % chance in the playbook.
 
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Originally posted by Cirop
I had a playbook with 2 blitz plays in all defensive slot (except goalline) one zone and one man. My tactics were 0% blitz and zone from 0% to 70% in different slots. However it only ever called the man play. I changed it to 50% zone, 100% blitz and ran another game and it still called the man play 100%. I have noticed that if you mix man and zone plays in the playbook, it only ever calls the man plays. If they are all zone, or all man, then it calls them correctly by the % chance in the playbook.


You can't ignore what you have in the Pass short/med/long/run in/run out boxes and how the plays that are in your playbook are labeled. Those will always take precedence over zone and blitz boxes.
The man play that kept getting called was "Zero LB Dogs", which is labeled as Short Pass/Run. What was the other play in your playbook?
 
Makntak
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No matter how close I get to understanding this dynamic, it still throws up some weird shit. eg today's game - 0% Inside Run in any 3rd down and more than 8 yards to go. Yet it called an inside run defense (Thunder Smoke, as it happens).
Everything else I needed (that the tactics called for - in this case 50% Short Pass, 50 Medium Pass and 80% Blitz) is there
Short Man Run/Pass play
Short Man Run/Pass Blitz
Medium Man Run/Pass play
Medium Man Run/Pass Blitz

There's also an outside run play and an inside run play in the playbook Vs 3 WR

It pulls the Inside Run. Why would it do that? Is it because Inside run defenses are classed as blitzes?
 
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Originally posted by Makntak
No matter how close I get to understanding this dynamic, it still throws up some weird shit. eg today's game - 0% Inside Run in any 3rd down and more than 8 yards to go. Yet it called an inside run defense (Thunder Smoke, as it happens).
Everything else I needed (that the tactics called for - in this case 50% Short Pass, 50 Medium Pass and 80% Blitz) is there
Short Man Run/Pass play
Short Man Run/Pass Blitz
Medium Man Run/Pass play
Medium Man Run/Pass Blitz

There's also an outside run play and an inside run play in the playbook Vs 3 WR

It pulls the Inside Run. Why would it do that? Is it because Inside run defenses are classed as blitzes?


Thunder smoke is also a short pass defense. So if you have anything in the short pass box for that situation then it will possibly call that play.
 
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Originally posted by rob4121983
Thunder smoke is also a short pass defense. So if you have anything in the short pass box for that situation then it will possibly call that play.


Incorrect mate. Thunder Smoke is 4-3 "Short 1-2WR Inside Run Man Defense"
 
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