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Sean1995
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In glb2, punters with 100 punt power punt almost anything for a TB, effectively shutting down any special team force.

In 2013, M.King led the NFL for average punt yardage at 48.9 yards and it is way too unrealistic for punters to be able to punt for such a long distance in glb2.

It is also not helping that there are 3 SAs that increase the punt distance, and it is almost not worth making an accuracy punter over a power punter.

Power punt obviously needs be nerfed.
Edited by Sean1995 on Jun 8, 2014 04:58:32
 
killershrew
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+1

Returners are almost useless by journeyman level since all punts outside own 20yd line are touchbacks..
 
Jampy2.0
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lol

Originally posted by Sean1995
Power punt obviously needs be nerfed.


We are the dumb ones.

 
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Originally posted by Sean1995
In 2013, M.King led the NFL for average punt yardage at 48.9 yards and it is way too unrealistic for punters to be able to punt for such a long distance in glb2.


NFL punt yardage doesn't include TB yardage.

Most NFL punters are in the 60-70 yard range in the air for their long. But they rarely go to air it out because intentionally kicking TB's is bad, and they rarely are in a position where they just need to boom it.

Same thing in GLB2, it just takes a while before you start to see value in accurate punters. Sticking an offense inside their 5 yard line radically changes play calling for a lot of teams. But you need punt hands, consistency, and accuracy to have a chance at making that a regular occurrence, so it'll take a while.

In the meantime, the random nature of punt returns makes starting out on your power first a good plan. You might not get the advantages of burying a team deep, but you're also eliminating the risk of return TD's.

 
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Originally posted by Xavori
NFL punt yardage doesn't include TB yardage.

Most NFL punters are in the 60-70 yard range in the air for their long.


Trust me, if a punter with 100 power punt gets the gold 'pinned deep' SA to fire from their own 1 yard line, it will be a 99 yard TB. Seeing how bad kicking performance in glb2 is compared to nfl, it is just absurd that occurrence of 80+ yard punt for TB is so frequent in high tier leagues.

Originally posted by Xavori
But they rarely go to air it out because intentionally kicking TB's is bad, and they rarely are in a position where they just need to boom it.

Man, I would take TBs anytime punting from my own redzone. The problem we have is that power punters always air it out effectively on a consistent basis. I think there should be a chance for punters with low punt consistency to make really bad punts(something like 15 yard punt going out of bounds), which happens even in NFL when punters try to boom it.
 
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Originally posted by Xavori

Most NFL punters are in the 60-70 yard range in the air for their long. But they rarely go to air it out because intentionally kicking TB's is bad, and they rarely are in a position where they just need to boom it.



btw this is why King average is so high in OPs example,

because Raiders always give him lots of open space to kick it into.

Originally posted by Sean1995

The problem we have is that power punters always air it out effectively on a consistent basis. I think there should be a chance for punters with low punt consistency to make really bad punts(something like 15 yard punt going out of bounds), which happens even in NFL when punters try to boom it.


Now this is a completely sensible argument.

tbh I suggest you wipe the OP, and copy and paste this in. "Power punt obviously needs to be nerfed", is a pretty senseless statement. However less consistent punts from those who don't build consistency, is a fairly reasonable desire. However you will probably get a lot of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

But how do you do your New suggestion without breaking rookie and sophomore punting?
Edited by Jampy2.0 on Jun 8, 2014 13:42:25
 
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^ I was only referring to players with high punt power and low punt consistency or accuracy. There won't be a problem in rookie and sophomore since guys just don't have powerful enough legs to 'make mistakes.' I think the roll for a bad punt should be based on the difference between punt power and punt consistency(accuracy).

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
"Power punt obviously needs to be nerfed", is a pretty senseless statement.


My statement is still valid. Punt yardage almost exclusively depends on punt power and it shouldn't. It is also just not realistic that they are able to punt anything longer than 70 yards.
 
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its a game bro, some things just won't be realistic.
 
InRomoWeTrust
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Originally posted by Sean1995

Seeing how bad kicking performance in glb2 is compared to nfl, it is just absurd that occurrence of 80+ yard punt for TB is so frequent in high tier leagues.


Post'm? I don't think I've seen ANY 80 yard punts.

I'll take 70+ yard punts as well, because those aren't occurring with any sort of a high frequency, either.
Edited by InRomoWeTrust on Jun 9, 2014 06:43:31
 
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Truthfully, all I read from this thread is "I built an accuracy punter and I'm pissed".
 
Sean1995
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
Truthfully, all I read from this thread is "I built an accuracy punter and I'm pissed".


I am sorry, but this kind of response just isn't a good way to continue a positive debate.

I have never made an accuracy punter in glb2. And I have so far made 3 power punters, including my firstest player ever.

And my first punter did this in his second season, day 29.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/31053/3102073?player_id=28628

Had he had gold 'pinned deep' instead of bronze and punt power 100 instead of 85-ish, it probably would have sailed over the upright.
 
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and this

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/57697/1622226?player_id=7028
 
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Originally posted by Sean1995
and this

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/57697/1622226?player_id=7028


lulz
 
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Originally posted by Sean1995
and this

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/57697/1622226?player_id=7028


wow. That's a 82-83 yard punt in the air.

That is a little lulzy. Usually when you see a punt go for that far in real life, it's because the returner let it go, and it took a wicked bounce and roll for another 20+ yards.

The angle probably needs to be adjusted on punts and the power reduced slightly. Punts going for 60+ yards in the air should be rare. Adding velocity to should increase hangtime more than distance, encouraging more fair catch situations.

It does create an interesting build decision. Do you go with a crazy power guy, and just always reset the field to the opposing 20? Or do you build an Inspire Fear/Coverage Commander type accuracy guy, kicking it shorter on purpose hoping to get a return that your guys can drill for a potential fumble. I don't know if inspire fear's carrying grip debuff lasts long enough tbh.
 
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Originally posted by Galithor
Or do you build an Inspire Fear/Coverage Commander type accuracy guy, kicking it shorter on purpose hoping to get a return that your guys can drill for a potential fumble. I don't know if inspire fear's carrying grip debuff lasts long enough tbh.


Of course, the issue with that build is that Inspire Fear is powered by intimidation, and Intimidation is a combination of Confidence/Strength/Stamina (in that order), so you'd still need good strength to get that working well - without using Slowbuilt/Superstar, you literally can NOT break 80 intimidation as a punter, and approaching 80 means a lot of strength...and probably less accuracy.
 
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