Warrior General Games

The two top guys:
(stats I skip they both have zero)

Dan Morgan:
10 games
11 tackles
1 missed tackle
13 hurries
28 sacks
16 targeted 8 allowed
1 pass defended
9 forced fumbles
2 fumble recoveries for -.5 yards
0 safeties

Vincent Skavotch
11 games
14 tackles
0 missed tackles
16 hurries
41.5 sacks
6 targeted 3 allowed
1 pass defended
8 forced fumbles
4 fumble recoveries for 2.5 yards
1 safety

It makes absolutely no sense that Dan and not Vincent is the MVP. It shouldn't even be close because the only stat Dan is better at is forced fumbles where he has one more than Vince. On the other hand, Vince has a whole pile more sacks.

Each statistic is probably weighted differently and might have some to do with team production as well. I would say formula is such... X + Y = 42.

Just remember its always 42.

O_o

Originally posted by Stobie
Each statistic is probably weighted differently and might have some to do with team production as well. I would say formula is such... X + Y = 42.

Just remember its always 42.

O_o

While I have no doubt that you're correct, it makes absolutely no sense that 1 extra forced fumble is worth more than the combination of 3 extra tackles, 3 extra hurries, 13 1/2 extra sacks, 2 extra fumble recoveries,and a safety.

His production relative to his teams also has weight...

If everyone on your team has 40 sacks then your 40 aren't as valuable... Remember its not highest stats, its most valuable...

Originally posted by Xavori
While I have no doubt that you're correct, it makes absolutely no sense that 1 extra forced fumble is worth more than the combination of 3 extra tackles, 3 extra hurries, 13 1/2 extra sacks, 2 extra fumble recoveries,and a safety.

Level of competition may also be included. Were the forced fumbles in competitive or non-competitive games? Same question with sacks. I'm not saying that's the answer but I wouldn't be surprised if it fits into the equation somewhere.

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
His production relative to his teams also has weight...

If everyone on your team has 40 sacks then your 40 aren't as valuable... Remember its not highest stats, its most valuable...

Not necessarily true. I give you the offensive MVP race in Tiger.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/league/2

The #2 and #3 HBs are on the same team and, likely based on number of TDs, ranked slightly behind DD's HB.

this shud be in faQ btw

Originally posted by AirMcMVP
Not necessarily true.

I'm telling him what I was told back in glb1. I doubt the systems have changed much.

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
this shud be in faQ btw

Not likely. There are many things that should not be revealed and specific formulas for things like MVP are included in that list.

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
I'm telling him what I was told back in glb1. I doubt the systems have changed much.

I'm telling you what I've observed. Last season in Scorpion (RIP) there were two DEs from the same team that were 1 and 2 in the DMVP race. This season in Tiger there were two HBs that were 2 and 3 in the OMVP race. I'm not saying there's nothing in the formula that weights based on importance of the team but I feel if its there its a small piece of the equation.

Originally posted by AirMcMVP
I'm telling you what I've observed. Last season in Scorpion (RIP) there were two DEs from the same team that were 1 and 2 in the DMVP race. This season in Tiger there were two HBs that were 2 and 3 in the OMVP race. I'm not saying there's nothing in the formula that weights based on importance of the team but I feel if its there its a small piece of the equation.

Lol...Look at Mercury League DMVP

Originally posted by AirMcMVP
Level of competition may also be included. Were the forced fumbles in competitive or non-competitive games? Same question with sacks. I'm not saying that's the answer but I wouldn't be surprised if it fits into the equation somewhere.

Still wouldn't make sense.

He's the best player on the highest ranked team in the league. His 41.5 sacks represent 22% of the team's 189 total sacks.

And why should competitive games matter? Does it make sense that because my defense only gave up 44 points all season in league games thereby making a lot of games one-sided that he gets punished? He's a big part of how my defense shutout so many teams.

Originally posted by peeti
Lol...Look at Mercury League DMVP

I think you just blew Jampy's mind with that one. Wow!

Originally posted by Xavori
And why should competitive games matter? Does it make sense that because my defense only gave up 44 points all season in league games thereby making a lot of games one-sided that he gets punished? He's a big part of how my defense shutout so many teams.

Because that became an issue in GLB1 (hence blowout adjusted stats) and may have been built in here. I have no idea if it was or wasn't, just throwing out a possible reason.

I wouldn't be surprised if the league MVP is weighted just like the HoF is weighted - stats are relative to the rating of the team you are playing. So getting stats against weaker teams isn't as impressive as getting stats against the stronger teams.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/league/17

My bots are 3rd, 4th, and 7th for OMVP.

My bots are 7th and 10th in DMVP.

My bot is 2nd in STMVP.

In all cases, the top players play for the teams that are at the top of their league and who are high in the ladder, with the exception of the STMVP who is from a second place team who just missed the wildcard spot in a tie-breaker. STMVP is obviously a little more slanted to KR yards because those are a lot easier to get.

Also to note, where no other players on a team even made the top ten, the one player that did seems to have higher weighted stats because of % of performance or something.

I don't know... MVP is only messed up in the seasons where I don't win it.