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In 'he could go all the way!' situations, where all the ball carrier has to do to score is to not get caught by D from behind, defenders, if they are close enough, attempt diving tackles from the back and always fail, to only see the carrier go all the way which might have been prevented if they decided to just chase him down for a bit longer.

My question is, why are they doing this? Are they actually trying to tackle or is it some kind of their lame excuse to save their energy?(LOL) Have you guys ever seen a defender making a successful diving tackle from the back and does having a good vertical and diving even matter?

Originally posted by Sean1995
My question is, why are they doing this? Are they actually trying to tackle or is it some kind of their lame excuse to save their energy?(LOL)




they are trying to tackle the guy dude.......

of course diving matters.

You see players in reality do this all the time. If they're pursuing a guy and don't think they'll be able to run him down (you have to generally have a great angle, or be quite a bit faster than the guy you're chasing if he has any sort of lead on you) they'll dive for him. Sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.

Improving your diving will definitely help improve your diving tackles. The farther you can dive, the better your chances of actually catching the guy when you do.

Originally posted by Jampy2.0


they are trying to tackle the guy dude.......

of course diving matters.
But..

Originally posted by Sean1995
Have you guys ever seen a defender making a successful diving tackle from the back

I can't say I really look. Also, at these levels, I'd be surprised if anyone had enough points in Diving to really make much of a difference. I expect that to be something that comes later as people begin to spread their points out.


Edit: Unless you're asking about real life, in which case yes. I've seen players tripped, tackled from behind, etc. every so often.

Originally posted by Sean1995
In 'he could go all the way!' situations, where all the ball carrier has to do to score is to not get caught by D from behind, defenders, if they are close enough, attempt diving tackles from the back and always fail, to only see the carrier go all the way which might have been prevented if they decided to just chase him down for a bit longer.

My question is, why are they doing this? Are they actually trying to tackle or is it some kind of their lame excuse to save their energy?(LOL) Have you guys ever seen a defender making a successful diving tackle from the back and does having a good vertical and diving even matter?


Yes, I have seen players get tackled from behind all the time. It's kinda close, but I see fewer missed diving tackles from behind than successful diving tackles from behind. But I also often see the defender catch the ball carrier without diving or never dive at all and chase closely behind him to the end zone.

I'm sure diving will extend the length of the dive, I even think I remember seeing that it should increase the AI of the diving player to make him dive more accurately and in the right situations more often. I'd think nobody has really touched diving over a couple points so you should expect diving tackles to be less successful. Plus, the reason they had to dive at all means that they aren't very close or in the best position to make a tackle, so increased risk of completing the tackle.

I'd never think of a diving player as saving energy. By the time they are in position to dive at a ball carrier from behind they are usually pretty low on energy already. Then add the energy to dive and the fact they get back up and pursue again as fast as they can even though they are 20+ yards out of the play and I'd say no, not energy saving in any way.

I really do wish the players 20+ yards away like the OLine and QB would just walk it out and save their energy though. A couple long runs, or sometimes just one, without a TD can deplete the energy of your entire offense.

Originally posted by Sean1995
Originally posted by Jampy2.0



they are trying to tackle the guy dude.......

of course diving matters.
But..

Originally posted by Sean1995

Have you guys ever seen a defender making a successful diving tackle from the back



Happens all the time on the sweeps I spam with my rQBs -http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/29440/2614826

Originally posted by -Phaytle-
I really do wish the players 20+ yards away like the OLine and QB would just walk it out and save their energy though. A couple long runs, or sometimes just one, without a TD can deplete the energy of your entire offense.

Yeah, until the ball carrier fumbles and the defense are the only bots around. Or you miss a crucial block. If coaches had it their way players would give 100%, 100% of the time, between the whistles...like they do in GLB.

Originally posted by DeeVee8
Yeah, until the ball carrier fumbles and the defense are the only bots around. Or you miss a crucial block. If coaches had it their way players would give 100%, 100% of the time, between the whistles...like they do in GLB.

Well I guess I should have also specifically said the defensive positions too, or just left it at everyone 20+ yards away.

I know they preached that 100%, 100% of the time stuff in pee wee, but once you move on to more competitive leagues the coaches told us to be smart. Of course you don't just stop and stand there like a fool when you're 20+ yards out, you jog towards the play because you're going to need to move downfield anyway. But in GLB I'm pretty sure jogging would take way more energy relative to real life.

If I'm the far side receiver on a pitch or sweep or run broken to the opposite side and the back is in the secondary I am not going all out to catch up to the the back when there are 10 other guys between him and me. I'm also not getting chewed out for that either.

It's funny to see the lineman's energy in GLB though just go from full to 0 because they are blocking 50 yards away from a long run. Absolutely no point or reason to me. Whoever he is blocking doesn't have a shot if he was the fastest person on the field, so bad decision to waste the energy there imo.

Here you go. My LB Rocky Stonebreaker, chased down a HB from behind and made a diving tackle.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/29769/2708671?player_id=27495

I won't show you his build, but he only has a 12 in diving.

Originally posted by -Phaytle-
I know they preached that 100%, 100% of the time stuff in pee wee, but once you move on to more competitive leagues the coaches told us to be smart.

In GLB all dots are Rudy

Originally posted by -Phaytle-
I really do wish the players 20+ yards away like the OLine and QB would just walk it out and save their energy though. A couple long runs, or sometimes just one, without a TD can deplete the energy of your entire offense.

idk i'd get chewed out for walking behind a play in HS... i'd hate for a joe to do it as well.