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A few question about Strips:

1. Is there any way to distinguish a strip from a ffum by watching the replay or reading PBP? (excluding seeing Opportunist fire)
2. Is Stripping in any linked to the tackling roll? Or are they independent or?

3. When a defender is being dragged by a ball carrier, is he attempting MT rolls or Strip rolls or both?
4. Do strips only occur in gang tackles/when a defender is being dragged.

anyone who has any knowledge on Strip Technique pls feel free to post.

Lastly, is this a strip?

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/17988/263912

I had a couple Strip focused LB's on the way to my SS.

1. I think a "strip" and FF are one in the same, strip technique just being the positive roll modifier (talking fumble % chance) for the defense and carry technique being the negative roll modifier for the offense in terms of specific attributes. Obviously "strip technique" is likely to carry greater weight than "power tackling" or "tackling technique" since it applies in fewer situations.

2. I think Power Tackling does play a role on its own as well (I had similar ff numbers with 70 power and 20 strip as 50 power and 50 strip on about 4 players, give or take a few ff's) which would indicate some kind of combined system (which seems logical since SA's tell us there is a Power Tackling roll that is unique). So ultimately, we are probably looking at something like:

Morale + Energy + Chemistry + Power Tackling Roll + Strip Technique Roll + (Defensive Consistency / Game Situation Modifier) + Speed of Player on Impact = Defensive Strip Chance

With something similar on the offensive end. I think Corndog has admitted GLB2 is even more RNG than GLB1 was, and if you look at the SA's and the secondary conditions like energy and chemistry I can see why.

3. I don't think you can strip while your being dragged. I think you are just balance checking every tick at that point to try and get back on your feet, similar to the state when your pancaked. If someone else gang-tackles you might be able to get Opportunist to fire, but I'd have to see that in a replay which I have not.

4. You can definitely strip on your own. I think speed is a bigger factor than people realize when it comes to FF's. Monster Hit needs 50% max speed to activate, and I did find my slower LB's getting at least a few FF's less over time than the fast power ones. Obviously RNG and poor sample size apply.

Originally posted by Laggo


3. I don't think you can strip while your being dragged. I think you are just balance checking every tick at that point to try and get back on your feet, similar to the state when your pancaked. If someone else gang-tackles you might be able to get Opportunist to fire, but I'd have to see that in a replay which I have not.


You mean MT rerolling?

Good stuff Laggo

I have seen Opportunist fire while the ball carrier was dragging a defender. It did not cause a fumble thou.

Originally posted by pedro617
I have seen Opportunist fire while the ball carrier was dragging a defender. It did not cause a fumble thou.

Opportunist fires a lot for my team, never seen a ffum tho.

definitely some good Qs. wish i knew the answer but my FS gets more FFs than my HHSS.


so the only thing i can really add is that speed is definitely a big factor.

My SSs are probably getting the most FFs from any players I've been watching.

They have 50+ tackling tech, 50+ Power Tackling, and 40+ Intimidation. They ignored all of the pass deflecting and coverage skills, but capped out on def consis. Used those points to get blitz awareness, pursuit, and lots of balance. Footwork, Sprinting, and Quickness are all pretty average. Conditioning is low for their age.

It has been slow this season, probably because people have increased their carrying grip in the offseason and I'm capped out on my tackling skills, but I think the big three are intimidation, tackling tech, and tackling power to get FFs right now. Especially on STs and runs up the gut where the SS meets the HB head on. You aren't going to force as many fumbles with power tackling from the side... momentum matters too.

DEs and DTs that haven't made a huge investment in tackling are getting FFs on QBs and HBs, mostly due to weight and speed and morale.

What do you consider low for their age...

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
What do you consider low for their age...

Less than 25

Ok thanks, but I don't see anything in your post regarding to Strip Technique?

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
Ok thanks, but I don't see anything in your post regarding to Strip Technique?

That's in response to laggo's post about strip fumbles. I'm suggesting that power tackling has nothing to do with strip fumbles.

You can tell when it is a strip because the players remain standing. If the player dropping the ball and the player making the FF fall down, it isn't a strip fumble (from what I can tell).

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
A few question about Strips:

1. Is there any way to distinguish a strip from a ffum by watching the replay or reading PBP? (excluding seeing Opportunist fire)

Originally posted by Time Trial

You can tell when it is a strip because the players remain standing. If the player dropping the ball and the player making the FF fall down, it isn't a strip fumble (from what I can tell).

Sweet, thanks man

It is possible that you can strip as part of a tackle, but I have seen FFs where neither player falls to the ground, and those are surely related to strip fumbles. I can't rule out the possibility that there are tackles where the ball is stripped as the players are going to the ground, but I can't confirm that.

My best guess?

Tackling tech + Strip = Tackle Strip based on quality of tackle + angle of tackle + quality of strip roll
Strip Only = An excellent Strip roll, based on proximity. May include a tackling grip roll and possibly one other skill. Players don't fall down (or at least they don't fall until the ball hits the ground and then they fall on the ball).
Power Tackle + Tackling Tech + Intimidation + Momentum = FF based on pure physics causing the player to fail the carrying grip roll.

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