I know this could open a can, but even if you make it simple and say inside opponent 49 and less than 1 yard - check or uncheck.
Forum > Suggestions > Add option to go for it on 4th down
E-A-G-L-E-S
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IReLevant on this game
you see what i did
...time and time again, attempts to make this game more "realistic" get shot down. i dont always agree with it, but the guys upstairs are pretty intent on keeping this game well balanced and un-abusable
you see what i did
...time and time again, attempts to make this game more "realistic" get shot down. i dont always agree with it, but the guys upstairs are pretty intent on keeping this game well balanced and un-abusable
bhall43
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Originally posted by DeeVee8
How 'bouts between the opponent's 38-45 yd line...like sometimes happens irl?
Maybe if it was just gl dive vs gl defense like 2 point conversions. Using your own variation of short yardage shit is so easy it's just dumb.
How 'bouts between the opponent's 38-45 yd line...like sometimes happens irl?
Maybe if it was just gl dive vs gl defense like 2 point conversions. Using your own variation of short yardage shit is so easy it's just dumb.
glwarriors
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So it shouldn't be done because we can't count on the coders to make it work?
Hard to argue with that.
nevermind
Hard to argue with that.
nevermind
bhall43
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Well let's be realistic here. If it were more of a 50% chance of getting that first down than that 90% chance in glb1, there are going to be FAR less situations in which you go for it.
glwarriors
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Originally posted by bhall43
Well let's be realistic here. If it were more of a 50% chance of getting that first down than that 90% chance in glb1, there are going to be FAR less situations in which you go for it.
I totally agree with this - it should be a 50-50 proposition all things being equal.
But coders aren't capable of getting that right, so we shouldn't ask for stuff.
I get it.
Well let's be realistic here. If it were more of a 50% chance of getting that first down than that 90% chance in glb1, there are going to be FAR less situations in which you go for it.
I totally agree with this - it should be a 50-50 proposition all things being equal.
But coders aren't capable of getting that right, so we shouldn't ask for stuff.
I get it.
Time Trial
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Yeah, but IRL you aren't going to punt it on 4th and inches when you are on the other side of the 50. The D can't count it as a stop if they are in 4th down territory.
This game is going to continue to be a passing sim if you don't let grinding teams grind. Grinding teams should be running the ball on 3rd and 2 because they know that they will get it or they will get another try on 4th and inches.
This game is going to continue to be a passing sim if you don't let grinding teams grind. Grinding teams should be running the ball on 3rd and 2 because they know that they will get it or they will get another try on 4th and inches.
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Originally posted by Time Trial
Yeah, but IRL you aren't going to punt it on 4th and inches when you are on the other side of the 50. The D can't count it as a stop if they are in 4th down territory.
Maybe instead of an "option to go for it", they just expand the default AI to do more 4th downs. There's already a setting for "max field goal" and "safe field goal" - if you're 4th and inches in between those ranges, AI automatically does one of the existing 4th down situations.
With the way GLB2 is set up, I can see them not letting us choose how often to go for it on 4th...but I'd be all for them having us go automatically in some logical situations (4th and goal inside the 3, 4th and short between the 40 and the 30, etc)
Yeah, but IRL you aren't going to punt it on 4th and inches when you are on the other side of the 50. The D can't count it as a stop if they are in 4th down territory.
Maybe instead of an "option to go for it", they just expand the default AI to do more 4th downs. There's already a setting for "max field goal" and "safe field goal" - if you're 4th and inches in between those ranges, AI automatically does one of the existing 4th down situations.
With the way GLB2 is set up, I can see them not letting us choose how often to go for it on 4th...but I'd be all for them having us go automatically in some logical situations (4th and goal inside the 3, 4th and short between the 40 and the 30, etc)
bhall43
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Originally posted by Time Trial
Yeah, but IRL you aren't going to punt it on 4th and inches when you are on the other side of the 50. The D can't count it as a stop if they are in 4th down territory.
This game is going to continue to be a passing sim if you don't let grinding teams grind. Grinding teams should be running the ball on 3rd and 2 because they know that they will get it or they will get another try on 4th and inches.
You aren't running on 3rd and 2? Lol
Yeah, but IRL you aren't going to punt it on 4th and inches when you are on the other side of the 50. The D can't count it as a stop if they are in 4th down territory.
This game is going to continue to be a passing sim if you don't let grinding teams grind. Grinding teams should be running the ball on 3rd and 2 because they know that they will get it or they will get another try on 4th and inches.
You aren't running on 3rd and 2? Lol
bhall43
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Maybe their should be a risk selection for beyond the 50 for any situation that currently doesn't call for going for it on 4th down. And the play used should be the exact same as it is for a 2 point conversion so it isn't so ridiculously easy.
Risk Low - Never go for it on 4th down unless the situation is already computed.
Risk Medium - On any 4th down not already computed to go for it, there is a chance the QB/Coach makes the call to go for it. (chance could be something like 20-40%)
Risk High - On any 4th down not already computed to go for it, there is a high chance the QB/Coach makes the call to go for it. (chance could be anywhere from 40-80%)
This gives an OC some choices at least. It isn't ever to the point where they are ALWAYS doing it on every 4th down, but high risk leaves a very good chance that they will make the gutsy call. And there is still a low risk for those that aren't comfortable with the risk at all and medium for those that are willing to take some chances but not a lot.
Risk Low - Never go for it on 4th down unless the situation is already computed.
Risk Medium - On any 4th down not already computed to go for it, there is a chance the QB/Coach makes the call to go for it. (chance could be something like 20-40%)
Risk High - On any 4th down not already computed to go for it, there is a high chance the QB/Coach makes the call to go for it. (chance could be anywhere from 40-80%)
This gives an OC some choices at least. It isn't ever to the point where they are ALWAYS doing it on every 4th down, but high risk leaves a very good chance that they will make the gutsy call. And there is still a low risk for those that aren't comfortable with the risk at all and medium for those that are willing to take some chances but not a lot.
Edited by bhall43 on Jan 30, 2014 14:31:06
glwarriors
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Well like I said - my thinking was add it in somehow so it is not ridiculous. I'd even be fine if someone was able to set the Tactics to go for it 100% of the time as long as they failed at least as often as they made it. Right now it's just silly to see every 4th and inches end in a punt.
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