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NOTE:this is a pass blocker, nothing else. Would play on a team that has elected to making the passing game their go to offense. If I wanted a run blocker, I'd of used a run blocking archetype.

I've an OT that breaks the mold on speed. Pass blocking archetype and for those who don't see it right away, it's a 2AEQ build. Little qualifier, I goofed a bit, so it could be a little better. He's very effective, as good as any. Only question that could be made is, has he faced enough WL quality DE to verify the build works. I'll probably advertise him for a WL roster next season.

Oh, shock block is a total waste of skill points. Unless Bort does something to the SA, never invest a single point into it.

Physical Attributes
Strength: 99
Speed: 51
Agility: 148.1 (+52)
Jumping: 10
Stamina: 59
Vision: 81.1
Confidence: 60.1

Football Skills
Blocking: 92.1
Catching: 8
Tackling: 8
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Pass Blocking Abilities
Pass Block: 11
Shock Block: 9
Foundation: 9
Absorb Pain: 4
Protector: 15

Run Blocking Abilities
Run Block: 0
Get Low: 0
Hands: 0
Cut Block: 0
Pancake: 0

Additional Abilities
Spot Blitz: 10
Veteran Abilities
Quick: 12
Max Protect: 15
Pass Blocker: 15
Pocket Defender: 15
Stonewall: 15

Equipment is Hold Block and Protector.

I wondered for quite some time if speed was really needed at all on a LOT. I never really cared enough to try it. I would like to know how he fairs against top end competition.

Your surprised shock block doesnt work on a dot with 99 STR? Really? It works quite well actually on the right dot

Originally posted by Sellars
Your surprised shock block doesnt work on a dot with 99 STR? Really? It works quite well actually on the right dot

It's one of those things hard to evaluate since we don't control all the factors, but since adding it, he gets about 3 standard cakes to every shock block, despite having no SA or VA to enhance pancake. I suspect that back when Bort adjusted Pancake to fire more often, he neglected to make the same adjustment to shock block.

Your dot has 1 pancake in 5 games this season and roughly 1 in every 2 games for each of the past 2 seasons. I'm not sure what pancake stat your looking at that would make it seem like it happens for u often, and like I said, your OT is painfully weak so of coarse he isnt going to make much use of an SA that relies on STR to work effectively. There are not many DE's who are gonna fall far below 99 STR. Besides all that SA talk have u really even watched any replays of your OT in run blocking? He cant even get to his assignment half the time because hes a slug, im not sure how u consider that as good as any...

Originally posted by Sellars
Your dot has 1 pancake in 5 games this season and roughly 1 in every 2 games for each of the past 2 seasons. I'm not sure what pancake stat your looking at that would make it seem like it happens for u often, and like I said, your OT is painfully weak so of coarse he isnt going to make much use of an SA that relies on STR to work effectively. There are not many DE's who are gonna fall far below 99 STR. Besides all that SA talk have u really even watched any replays of your OT in run blocking? He cant even get to his assignment half the time because hes a slug, im not sure how u consider that as good as any...

Uhh. He's a pass blocker. Pass blocking archetype build to do nothing but pass block. So, no, I don't watch him much in run plays. He is a back up for my own team that wasn't needed. My pancake stat is an approximation that includes scrimmages and I think you misunderstood. I didn't mean one in 3 plays were pancakes, I meant about 1 in three pancakes is a shock block.

The intent of the build was to make blocks closer to the LOS so the D line blitzing is further from the QB, preventing the D line's aura from effecting pass quality.

Originally posted by Dr. E
I meant about 1 in three pancakes is a shock block.
Pancakes and shock blocks are two different things. They're not related. That said, I haven't found Shock Block to be a very valuable SA (or Pancake for that matter). As for the OP, that's nothing new. People have tried all equipment in agility before, as well as low speed. Speed hasn't been as important since the gimped DPC limited how wide DEs could get when pass rushing and no strength equipment probably works better in the sim now that DEs don't drive OTs backwards as much as they used to. I still wouldn't go the route of no strength, and I didn't see much benefit in pass protection performance when shifting equipment from strength into agility while there was an obvious drop in run blocking performance.

Originally posted by jdbolick

Pancakes and shock blocks are two different things. They're not related. That said, I haven't found Shock Block to be a very valuable SA (or Pancake for that matter). As for the OP, that's nothing new. People have tried all equipment in agility before, as well as low speed. Speed hasn't been as important since the gimped DPC limited how wide DEs could get when pass rushing and no strength equipment probably works better in the sim now that DEs don't drive OTs backwards as much as they used to. I still wouldn't go the route of no strength, and I didn't see much benefit in pass protection performance when shifting equipment from strength into agility while there was an obvious drop in run blocking performance.

Agree. And while pancakes are nice... chasing them isn't wise. I'll take a blocker who can hold his block and protect the QB over a cake monster.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Agree. And while pancakes are nice... chasing them isn't wise. I'll take a blocker who can hold his block and protect the QB over a cake monster.
Wrong. Pancakes are great, it's the Pancake SA that isn't because it has minimal benefit to actually pancaking a defender.

I don't get the concept of Agility that high nor do I understand why you don't want to pancake the defender. This dot still isn't strong enough for what I really wanted, but his Agility was high enough to only give up 5 sack and 3 hurries in WL last season and he plays on Run Blocking focus. Oh and he has lead my team in pancakes through his career...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4322858


BTW... ask bhall how high you really need to take Vision

Originally posted by jpjn94
I don't get the concept of Agility that high nor do I understand why you don't want to pancake the defender. This dot still isn't strong enough for what I really wanted, but his Agility was high enough to only give up 5 sack and 3 hurries in WL last season and he plays on Run Blocking focus. Oh and he has lead my team in pancakes through his career...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4322858


BTW... ask bhall how high you really need to take Vision



I"ve seen the trend has been to lower vision. The only down side to lower vision is the OT tends to fail on the switch with the guard when there's a blitz. Nice for the OT since the sack doesn't get charged to them, not so nice for the offense.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Agree. And while pancakes are nice... chasing them isn't wise. I'll take a blocker who can hold his block and protect the QB over a cake monster.

Agreed, never chase pancakes. But with this dot, I wanted to test shock block. It would be a great benefit for pass protection should the OT suddenly be free to assist elsewhere now and again, so the test. And, it's useless. Might be as sellars points out, strength is too low, but with a pass blocker, it's never going to be real high. I've not seen a pass blocking archetype that matches him.

Thanks for sharing the build.

How is he for pulling on outside running and screen plays? How does he fair against strength DEs on run plays? Does your team force starters? I notice that he is the backup LOT.

As for Shock Block, you need higher strength than whoever you're blocking for it to be effective. With 99 Strength, it will only be useful against lower strength LBs and DBs.

Originally posted by DiMo28
Thanks for sharing the build.

How is he for pulling on outside running and screen plays? How does he fair against strength DEs on run plays? Does your team force starters? I notice that he is the backup LOT.

As for Shock Block, you need higher strength than whoever you're blocking for it to be effective. With 99 Strength, it will only be useful against lower strength LBs and DBs.

He doesn't play on my team so I don't know the answers to most of the questions you ask. Also, as I said in an early reply, I don't watch him much, mostly I just click on the plays he pass blocks, but those I have watched, he's where he needs to be when he should be there. I also don't know the builds of those matched against him, but I can assume he has faced strength DEs as well as the classic pass rusher and he holds against all comers. Backup? That's a comment generally made by newer players. On my own team, I don't have backups, just dots that appear on the team profile and dots that don't. Every dot needs to carry their weight or you create a weak spot that quality teams will eat for lunch.

Being a backup wasn't meant to be a jab. Some teams force starters so backups don't play on 3rd down.