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OK...To take that away from haters and make the post to quote me, here it is: This is a whine thread.

So really, its the first day of playoffs, you make an extra Playbook and extra Tactics for that specific game (first time I cared about the leading and trailing stuff for example) and then you watch the game doing some crazy shit that is not related to any football sense at all?

Well...here is what happenend. Doesnt take that long...

Game: http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/game/11233

Last Drive: from here onwards http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/11233/2091107

Its right, that even tho I wanted to go Run Heavy, and there are no special tactics, so we start the Drive at our own 20 Yards Line with Runs and a few Passes...We are making our Drive all the way to the opponent 26 and here comes the nonsense!
At this time there is 1.05 Min left on the clock and we are trailing by one point.

The tactics "Near FG Range, < 5min left"n is 100% set to Inside Runs and also the specific OT tactics (yes, it wasnt the overtime, just to make that sure) "Inside Max FG Range, 1st-3rd Down" is set to 100% Inside Run!

My FG Range as well as my max FG range has been so to 50 before the game and we also made a 45yarder earlier in the Game...

So we are the opponent 26, first Down. It would be a 44 yards FG attempt, possible to kick => Inside FG Range to win the Game! But its the first down, so we keep playing. NO problem, as I said tactics "Near FG range" 100% run we will try to get a bit closer and maybe make another 4 or 6 yards to make it an easier FG?
NO! Suddenly the fckers try to pass What happens? incomplete! Second Down? We pass, Incomplete! Third Down? We pass, SACK! lol...fix ur builds, I know. So we are at the opponent 31 now, would be a 49 Yards FG attempt, still in my settings, but what the hell dow we do??? We pass again, get sacked and lose the game.

Really...Why is near FG not working for barely inside FG range?? Or why dont we have the option for 4th quarter if its the game winner???
AND: why do I not kick the god damn FG when its inside my FG Range?!?!1ß1


Really, I play a football Sim because I like football. I know the Sport isnt perfect and I have no problem with stupid QB, C or Punter Fumbles, since that could happen. I do not even have a problem with DBs that wont notice any cuts of WRs as there are bad CBs playing the game. But I do at least expect to watch a game that makes some sort of football sense, in the playcalling (if the coach sets stupid stuff then its his own fault = make stupid tactics here and i dont have a proble with it as long as it really follows those).
That didnt happen here...I kind of feel betrayed of saying GG to my opponent! I feel betrayed loosing like a man and a fair sportsman...

Hell, We woulda probably not gone a yard with 3 Rushes and yes, we would have possibly misse the 40+ yard FG and lose the Game anyway. Thats football! No problem with losing close Games, as it was fun to watch and gameplan for!

But with that ending? Nope...screw the game. No GG, no good luck next time. Just screw it.

Not sure if its a bug or should go in suggestions as we need ( as stupid as it is) another tactic option for 4th quarter like we have in OT...


Its probably hard to read, as my english sucks. Well, Sorry for that. But I did want to point that out as this should get fixed before Season 2 playoffs get screwed by that also.

Greetz
Edited by peeti on Jan 21, 2014 14:05:52
 
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Wow...While I was writing, I didnt notice how much I wrote. Guess nobody will read that much anyway
 
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I had the same situation. Down by 7 less than 2 min in the redzone I ran 100% of the time though my tactics for down by 7 in fourth say to pass 100%. But we do have RZ tactics so which tactics set win? I would suspect the trailing tactics but.. meh, just like you not happy.
 
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Originally posted by peeti
OK...To take that away from haters and make the post to quote me, here it is: This is a whine thread.

So really, its the first day of playoffs, you make an extra Playbook and extra Tactics for that specific game (first time I cared about the leading and trailing stuff for example) and then you watch the game doing some crazy shit that is not related to any football sense at all?

Well...here is what happenend. Doesnt take that long...

Game: http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/game/11233

Last Drive: from here onwards http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/11233/2091107

Its right, that even tho I wanted to go Run Heavy, and there are no special tactics, so we start the Drive at our own 20 Yards Line with Runs and a few Passes...We are making our Drive all the way to the opponent 26 and here comes the nonsense!
At this time there is 1.05 Min left on the clock and we are trailing by one point.

The tactics "Near FG Range, < 5min left"n is 100% set to Inside Runs and also the specific OT tactics (yes, it wasnt the overtime, just to make that sure) "Inside Max FG Range, 1st-3rd Down" is set to 100% Inside Run!

My FG Range as well as my max FG range has been so to 50 before the game and we also made a 45yarder earlier in the Game...

So we are the opponent 26, first Down. It would be a 44 yards FG attempt, possible to kick => Inside FG Range to win the Game! But its the first down, so we keep playing. NO problem, as I said tactics "Near FG range" 100% run we will try to get a bit closer and maybe make another 4 or 6 yards to make it an easier FG?
NO! Suddenly the fckers try to pass What happens? incomplete! Second Down? We pass, Incomplete! Third Down? We pass, SACK! lol...fix ur builds, I know. So we are at the opponent 31 now, would be a 49 Yards FG attempt, still in my settings, but what the hell dow we do??? We pass again, get sacked and lose the game.

Really...Why is near FG not working for barely inside FG range?? Or why dont we have the option for 4th quarter if its the game winner???
AND: why do I not kick the god damn FG when its inside my FG Range?!?!1ß1


Really, I play a football Sim because I like football. I know the Sport isnt perfect and I have no problem with stupid QB, C or Punter Fumbles, since that could happen. I do not even have a problem with DBs that wont notice any cuts of WRs as there are bad CBs playing the game. But I do at least expect to watch a game that makes some sort of football sense, in the playcalling (if the coach sets stupid stuff then its his own fault = make stupid tactics here and i dont have a proble with it as long as it really follows those).
That didnt happen here...I kind of feel betrayed of saying GG to my opponent! I feel betrayed loosing like a man and a fair sportsman...

Hell, We woulda probably not gone a yard with 3 Rushes and yes, we would have possibly misse the 40+ yard FG and lose the Game anyway. Thats football! No problem with losing close Games, as it was fun to watch and gameplan for!

But with that ending? Nope...screw the game. No GG, no good luck next time. Just screw it.

Not sure if its a bug or should go in suggestions as we need ( as stupid as it is) another tactic option for 4th quarter like we have in OT...


Its probably hard to read, as my english sucks. Well, Sorry for that. But I did want to point that out as this should get fixed before Season 2 playoffs get screwed by that also.

Greetz


I definitely understand. This happens to us almost every game too. At least everyone has to deal with it, but it too often costs a team points and sometimes the game. Definitely a major flaw, the sim gets more frustrating the deeper you get into it.

+1d even though it was against us
 


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