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Blutoski
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I'm looking for dominant 3-4 defensive teams. I really need to study some 3-4 teams to be a better DC coordinator. Any suggestions on who to look at?
 
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jdbolick
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3 down linemen is pretty common these days, although most use 3+ CBs instead of the extra linebacker. At the risk of stating the obvious, the key is to have strong defensive linemen and OLBs. Unfortunately Bort's limits on LB positioning mean that in some ways it's tougher to use effectively than a 3-3-5 or even 3-2-6.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
3 down linemen is pretty common these days, although most use 3+ CBs instead of the extra linebacker. At the risk of stating the obvious, the key is to have strong defensive linemen and OLBs. Unfortunately Bort's limits on LB positioning mean that in some ways it's tougher to use effectively than a 3-3-5 or even 3-2-6.


That's actually really useful. I may be able to work with that.
 
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Really the key is to have the dots and scheme that match up, I'm not a big fan of the 3-4 mainly because of the limitations of the linebackers but I do run with a lot of 3 down linemen in passing situations and blitz OLBs.
 
foshizzel17
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3-4 does have its advantages because you have custom slots for all 4 LB spots


but i use it mainly against the run(both bTE and bFB in the game) with 4 STR LBs
 
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Originally posted by DarkRogue
Really the key is to have the dots and scheme that match up, I'm not a big fan of the 3-4 mainly because of the limitations of the linebackers but I do run with a lot of 3 down linemen in passing situations and blitz OLBs.


We did build for the 3-4. I'm just having trouble scheming it. By coincidence, we have one inactive player who needs to be released and he's an LB. I could release him and pick up a CB for a 3-3 with some 3-4 for run situations. Of course, if I could find a great 3-4 or even 3-3 DC, it'd solve all my problems.
 
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Move your LBs far back when you expect a run. That seems counter-intuitive, but works best in GLB.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Move your LBs far back when you expect a run. That seems counter-intuitive, but works best in GLB.


I've noticed that a bit. I can make a defense that stops runs very well, but occasionally gives up big plays. It's the passing game where I give up too many completions.
 
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Use tags to get more CBs on the field whenever the offense is using receiving FBs & HBs.
 
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And it's much appreciated. I think I had offensive planning down by season 2. Defense though is much tougher for me to grasp.
 
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my team runs a 3-4 Scheme. My Defense gets alotta INT's and PD's
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Move your LBs far back when you expect a run. That seems counter-intuitive, but works best in GLB.


100% truth. Been watching teams shove their LB's up close to the LOS and my scatback is just toasting them on pitch plays and screens. Ya gotta give those LB's time to read and react to stuff. Up close to the line, they're most likely to just head for the QB, putting them out of position to make those kinda plays on the outside.
 
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best to watch teams at WL level if you want to learn. As jd said, base 3-3-5 and 3-2-6 is really more of what works than a pure 3-4 base due to very limited LBer positioning.

I dream of the day when under, over, and other variations based on LBer positioning are incorporated so we can go beyond the simplistic shifts that currently exist and were put in place to bring positioning from one extreme to the other.
 
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