In case anyone was curious why half my players had 'x' in their names (eg GR WRx Cobb), I conducted an experiment this season to try to find what impact Height has on anything. A lot of the reasoning to do this was here:
http://www.glbwiki.com/qa/viewtopic.php?60
Basically, height/weight has a bigger impact besides than just the initial attributes, and I was curious what effect height specifically had.
Test Description
I created Tallest/Shortest versions of: All OL, WR, TE, CB/SS/FS and STOPs. I'm going to cut out the STOPs right away because there just wasn't enough there to be significant, and it didn't look like a big deal anyway.
All of the positions were built the same way as their dwarf/giant counterpart, with the exception of TEs. My tall TE trained stam (to counter the -4) and my short ones trained vis (again, to counter the -4). For all other positions, the shorter players generally got more snaps because they had +4 stam. They also had +4 agi, -4 jum, -4 vis compared to the taller counterpart (and vice versa.)
Analysis was based off my last 25 games, which is every game after the big OL bug fix on 5/13. This date was also used because builds generally start to mature around that point. This came out to roughly 2200 offensive plays and another 2300 defensive.
Olinemen:
All of the numbers were evaluated as # of occurrences per play. What I found (yeah, the formatting sucks):
Pos.............Height..........Panck...........Rev.............Hryall..........Sackall
C...............-1..............0.25%...........1.15%...........1.15%...........0.00%
C...............1...............1.01%...........0.83%...........2.48%...........0.00%
G...............-1..............1.67%...........1.10%...........1.49%...........0.04%
G...............1...............0.99%...........0.56%...........1.18%...........0.00%
OT..............-1..............2.22%...........1.33%...........1.11%...........0.31%
OT..............1...............2.32%...........0.92%...........1.54%...........0.05%
Total...........-1..............1.58%...........1.20%...........1.27%...........0.14%
Total...........1...............1.51%...........0.76%...........1.59%...........0.02%
Taller centers had 4x more pancakes, fewer revcakes, but 2x the hurries.
Taller guards had 40% fewer pancakes, half the revcakes, and slighty less hurries.
Taller tackles had slightly less revcakes and slightly more hurries, but much fewer sacks. If you combine the hurry/sack numbers, height did not effect the total pressures for tackles.
I expected, based on Bort's thread, that taller OL would have more pancakes and more revcakes.
Taking all OL together, change in pancakes and pressures were negligible, though those numbers varied within each position.
Taller players had 1/3 fewer revcakes which was the opposite of what I'd expect, and that was consistent across all 3 positions.
http://www.glbwiki.com/qa/viewtopic.php?60
Basically, height/weight has a bigger impact besides than just the initial attributes, and I was curious what effect height specifically had.
Test Description
I created Tallest/Shortest versions of: All OL, WR, TE, CB/SS/FS and STOPs. I'm going to cut out the STOPs right away because there just wasn't enough there to be significant, and it didn't look like a big deal anyway.
All of the positions were built the same way as their dwarf/giant counterpart, with the exception of TEs. My tall TE trained stam (to counter the -4) and my short ones trained vis (again, to counter the -4). For all other positions, the shorter players generally got more snaps because they had +4 stam. They also had +4 agi, -4 jum, -4 vis compared to the taller counterpart (and vice versa.)
Analysis was based off my last 25 games, which is every game after the big OL bug fix on 5/13. This date was also used because builds generally start to mature around that point. This came out to roughly 2200 offensive plays and another 2300 defensive.
Olinemen:
All of the numbers were evaluated as # of occurrences per play. What I found (yeah, the formatting sucks):
Pos.............Height..........Panck...........Rev.............Hryall..........Sackall
C...............-1..............0.25%...........1.15%...........1.15%...........0.00%
C...............1...............1.01%...........0.83%...........2.48%...........0.00%
G...............-1..............1.67%...........1.10%...........1.49%...........0.04%
G...............1...............0.99%...........0.56%...........1.18%...........0.00%
OT..............-1..............2.22%...........1.33%...........1.11%...........0.31%
OT..............1...............2.32%...........0.92%...........1.54%...........0.05%
Total...........-1..............1.58%...........1.20%...........1.27%...........0.14%
Total...........1...............1.51%...........0.76%...........1.59%...........0.02%
Taller centers had 4x more pancakes, fewer revcakes, but 2x the hurries.
Taller guards had 40% fewer pancakes, half the revcakes, and slighty less hurries.
Taller tackles had slightly less revcakes and slightly more hurries, but much fewer sacks. If you combine the hurry/sack numbers, height did not effect the total pressures for tackles.
I expected, based on Bort's thread, that taller OL would have more pancakes and more revcakes.
Taking all OL together, change in pancakes and pressures were negligible, though those numbers varied within each position.
Taller players had 1/3 fewer revcakes which was the opposite of what I'd expect, and that was consistent across all 3 positions.
Edited by awsalick on May 30, 2012 11:42:49
Edited by awsalick on May 30, 2012 11:21:20
Edited by awsalick on May 30, 2012 11:19:55
Edited by awsalick on May 30, 2012 11:19:02
Edited by awsalick on May 30, 2012 11:18:17
I am doubtful that the sack differential can be accounted for by fewer pancakes alone, since, even counting pancakes as 'missed sacks', the taller players still come up short by over half.
