From what I have read on blocking Fb builds alot of suggested builds have you taking str to 83 or higher natural..is that necessary seems as though you will usually be blocking lb/de or d backs? was wondering if 77 -81 natural would be sufficent allowing other atts to be a little higher
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There was a lot of back and forth in here about the importance of speed and strength. Never having built a FB before, I listened and followed general build guides. Now that my dot is maturing, I was sitting at something like 113 strength and 95 speed (with bonuses)...and that was NOT cutting it. He could never get there to make a block outside the tackles.
He is doing much better since I swapped strength CE for speed CE and have gone with speed AEQ to replace strength EQ. You are right, on outside runs, he usually goes for a DB, LB or DE...but he also has to lead block inside as well.
The biggest limiting factor on how high to take strength is his need for enough speed to get there. I'm seeing the need for 105+ speed at level 60...and speed for a blocking FB is a minor so it's gonna be tough to get it to 115+ without it costing in other attributes.
My naturals for speed and strength are 88 and 87 and I could live with a little less strength and a little more speed...but I am gonna end up with EQ bonuses split between those 2 atts. Which way do you want to go? My thoughts now are to train/pour SP into strength(major) and use all EQ bonuses to build speed(minor) to avoid splitting bonuses(or lessen the split) between 2 atts.
Having one set of strength CE and a set of speed CE isn't too bad either...inside/outside.
He is doing much better since I swapped strength CE for speed CE and have gone with speed AEQ to replace strength EQ. You are right, on outside runs, he usually goes for a DB, LB or DE...but he also has to lead block inside as well.
The biggest limiting factor on how high to take strength is his need for enough speed to get there. I'm seeing the need for 105+ speed at level 60...and speed for a blocking FB is a minor so it's gonna be tough to get it to 115+ without it costing in other attributes.
My naturals for speed and strength are 88 and 87 and I could live with a little less strength and a little more speed...but I am gonna end up with EQ bonuses split between those 2 atts. Which way do you want to go? My thoughts now are to train/pour SP into strength(major) and use all EQ bonuses to build speed(minor) to avoid splitting bonuses(or lessen the split) between 2 atts.
Having one set of strength CE and a set of speed CE isn't too bad either...inside/outside.
Edited by sparky1502002 on May 30, 2012 06:45:39
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I find that too much speed is not so good on a blocking full back, too many inside blocks are missed. I agree that on outside runs a speedier fullback is need if CBs are to be blocked effectively but there are usually WRs there to do that. I think the best use is to hit the LBs or safeties that are trying to string out the play and for that more strength is need. I have had success with less speed and more strength but that said I think the speed of the RB for which you are blocking is important. If you are behind a maxed out RB there is no way that your FB will reach the outside before him ever, another reason I think higher strength is better than higher speed on a blocking FB.
If you want to have your FB run at all the speed/strength ratio would have to be shifted to more speed, less strength. Unless you want to be that FB that is good for getting to 2-3 yds on 3 and short as well as 2-3 yds on third and long.
If you want to have your FB run at all the speed/strength ratio would have to be shifted to more speed, less strength. Unless you want to be that FB that is good for getting to 2-3 yds on 3 and short as well as 2-3 yds on third and long.
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Originally posted by Bunk Bunk
I find that too much speed is not so good on a blocking full back, too many inside blocks are missed. I agree that on outside runs a speedier fullback is need if CBs are to be blocked effectively but there are usually WRs there to do that. I think the best use is to hit the LBs or safeties that are trying to string out the play and for that more strength is need. I have had success with less speed and more strength but that said I think the speed of the RB for which you are blocking is important. If you are behind a maxed out RB there is no way that your FB will reach the outside before him ever, another reason I think higher strength is better than higher speed on a blocking FB.
If you want to have your FB run at all the speed/strength ratio would have to be shifted to more speed, less strength. Unless you want to be that FB that is good for getting to 2-3 yds on 3 and short as well as 2-3 yds on third and long.
+1.
I even suggested a rotation at FB...one with more strength for inside and one with more speed for OT and outside.
My main observation was that my guy had no purpose on the field when the HB consistently passed him up. Now, he is not always in a good position to lead block...but if his dot can even touch the defender dot (even from behind the runner) the HB often breaks the tackle and keeps rolling. All a good HB needs is a chip or brush block to escape.
I find that too much speed is not so good on a blocking full back, too many inside blocks are missed. I agree that on outside runs a speedier fullback is need if CBs are to be blocked effectively but there are usually WRs there to do that. I think the best use is to hit the LBs or safeties that are trying to string out the play and for that more strength is need. I have had success with less speed and more strength but that said I think the speed of the RB for which you are blocking is important. If you are behind a maxed out RB there is no way that your FB will reach the outside before him ever, another reason I think higher strength is better than higher speed on a blocking FB.
If you want to have your FB run at all the speed/strength ratio would have to be shifted to more speed, less strength. Unless you want to be that FB that is good for getting to 2-3 yds on 3 and short as well as 2-3 yds on third and long.
+1.
I even suggested a rotation at FB...one with more strength for inside and one with more speed for OT and outside.
My main observation was that my guy had no purpose on the field when the HB consistently passed him up. Now, he is not always in a good position to lead block...but if his dot can even touch the defender dot (even from behind the runner) the HB often breaks the tackle and keeps rolling. All a good HB needs is a chip or brush block to escape.
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I went 140 Speed & 100 Strength. Seems enough strength to block LBs up the middle and enough speed to block for 160 Speed HBs on the outside.
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i toned down the speed a bit and he sits pretty at 120 speed, 103 strength, 95 blocking: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1898697
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Originally posted by Todd Toddy
i toned down the speed a bit and he sits pretty at 120 speed, 103 strength, 95 blocking
Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Aim for something around 120/110 str/spd.
I agree with those ratios. I tried some slower speeds with more strength on my current blocking FB and had him down to 80 speed and it was woefully inadequate. I moved some EQ from str. to spredd and found 90 was still not quite fast enough. Now with it at the 120str/100+spd range he is doing quite well. He is getting less pancakes but the overall blocking is better.
i toned down the speed a bit and he sits pretty at 120 speed, 103 strength, 95 blocking
Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Aim for something around 120/110 str/spd.
I agree with those ratios. I tried some slower speeds with more strength on my current blocking FB and had him down to 80 speed and it was woefully inadequate. I moved some EQ from str. to spredd and found 90 was still not quite fast enough. Now with it at the 120str/100+spd range he is doing quite well. He is getting less pancakes but the overall blocking is better.
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I have been going with 135/100 str/spd. I know most OC's prefer 110+ speed but I still dream of the days when FBs got pancakes.
On another topic about the other skills. I have two blocking FBs with 135/100 str/spd. They have 80 vision, and 60ish stam and conf. The key differences in these guys is blocking/agility. I went 90/80 on one and 80/90 on the other. Before the blocking buff I was certain the 80/90 blocking/agility guy would be the better of the two. Now I am not sure.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2356534 80/90 blocking/agility
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2356792 90/80 blocking/agility
On another topic about the other skills. I have two blocking FBs with 135/100 str/spd. They have 80 vision, and 60ish stam and conf. The key differences in these guys is blocking/agility. I went 90/80 on one and 80/90 on the other. Before the blocking buff I was certain the 80/90 blocking/agility guy would be the better of the two. Now I am not sure.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2356534 80/90 blocking/agility
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2356792 90/80 blocking/agility
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Originally posted by Bunk Bunk
I find that too much speed is not so good on a blocking full back, too many inside blocks are missed. I agree that on outside runs a speedier fullback is need if CBs are to be blocked effectively but there are usually WRs there to do that. I think the best use is to hit the LBs or safeties that are trying to string out the play and for that more strength is need. I have had success with less speed and more strength but that said I think the speed of the RB for which you are blocking is important. If you are behind a maxed out RB there is no way that your FB will reach the outside before him ever, another reason I think higher strength is better than higher speed on a blocking FB.
If you want to have your FB run at all the speed/strength ratio would have to be shifted to more speed, less strength. Unless you want to be that FB that is good for getting to 2-3 yds on 3 and short as well as 2-3 yds on third and long.
What really sucks is when your FB pancakes a DE, moves to nect block and the DE makes the tackle.
I find that too much speed is not so good on a blocking full back, too many inside blocks are missed. I agree that on outside runs a speedier fullback is need if CBs are to be blocked effectively but there are usually WRs there to do that. I think the best use is to hit the LBs or safeties that are trying to string out the play and for that more strength is need. I have had success with less speed and more strength but that said I think the speed of the RB for which you are blocking is important. If you are behind a maxed out RB there is no way that your FB will reach the outside before him ever, another reason I think higher strength is better than higher speed on a blocking FB.
If you want to have your FB run at all the speed/strength ratio would have to be shifted to more speed, less strength. Unless you want to be that FB that is good for getting to 2-3 yds on 3 and short as well as 2-3 yds on third and long.
What really sucks is when your FB pancakes a DE, moves to nect block and the DE makes the tackle.
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