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yello1
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Originally posted by Catch22
Guess I'm going to make you angry because we're not going to change it.

You also read way too much into that original announcement. You inferred that it would be any piece. All you had to do was send me a pm, send Support a message, or post a question in the Q & A thread we had shortly after that announcement and it would have been clarified for you. I should have made the announcement more clear and I apologize for any confusion I caused you (I've added a edit to clarify it now) but we've never allowed users to take advantage of changes after the change has been announced. Allowing users to stockpile purchased AEQ after the announcement would essentially equate to risk free shopping as users could just shop, keep a +% piece each roll and refund it, and shop until they found the piece they liked.

I'm also not sure how you are screwed by this. You can still exchange it for another +% piece or +SA piece.


Read too much and should ask support? WILL ANY FULL are three not very confusing words. Hard to read too much into that. ANY percent piece gets a FULL refund is what it says as plain as day. If I were to email support about every clearly stated sentence in the game it would get a little busy in GLB land would it not? I also think I saw you comment on the issue at one point. Can't find that now.

As far as screwed, things being what they were it was sensible to spend a little more to get the right piece in place for this season, the thought being that in 50 days that all gets a do over. More over, right now percent pieces are very useful, next season not so much. So this season maybe I spent more to get a high % piece but next season I would only want a 15 BT SA instead. I have a hundred players alot of whom were adding gear, I am not positive in all instances how much or if at all I got screwed here, but its a possibility in many and I know for sure at least one guy I said what the heck may as well shop its basically free. Some may think that guy was gaming the system but the fact is he was merely following the game parameters that had been laid out.
 
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Originally posted by chronoaug
I'm more surprised that Catch and Bort still make the same mistakes with stuff.

I'm sure Catch wishes that in his original announcement he included the May 2nd thing but he didn't. I don't think it's right for him to edit stuff and go back retroactively after telling people one thing only to change it.

He probably should just chalk it up to a learning experience and not announce changes until they're ready or at least just say "we're planning on cutting down the % on AEQs for s24. details to come" if he's that impatient. Or at least figure out a few more details before posting


This. It's gotten better, but still.
 
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It would be cool if they just refunded all shopping trips, BTs used for enhancement, BTs used to move pieces, and BTs used to buy a piece and made every start fresh with BTs refunded and 0 AEQ pieces

 
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Originally posted by 5STAR
no I will rage like everyone else



http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4660444&page=1#42683187
 
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Alright guys, let's try and keep this to questions about the AEQ changes rather then a debate about what pieces are entitled to a refund and those that are not. Yes, there was a mistake in how it was originally communicated and I apologize for that but we are not going to allow people to gain an unfair advantage over others so the announcement made yesterday is going to stay in effect. There were many threads being created about "gaming" the AEQ refunds in various team and organization forums which was one of the reasons we made the announcement yesterday to make sure it was clear how the refunds were going to work.

If you have a concern/issue with this, then send me a private message and I'll be happy to discuss it with you. Leave it out of this thread though. If we can't do that, then I will lock the thread and direct people to contact Support with their AEQ questions.
 
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Edited by byrongame21 on Jul 8, 2011 09:27:56
 
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Originally posted by 5STAR
It would be cool if they just refunded all shopping trips, BTs used for enhancement, BTs used to move pieces, and BTs used to buy a piece and made every start fresh with BTs refunded and 0 AEQ pieces



im sure pretty much everyone would be cool with that. while we're at it just reset the whole damn game and also put an end to VAs once and for all lol


oh yeah and do that SA testing that should have been done already too
 
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Question:

Are you guys concerned/putting plans in place regarding how the changes in +% pieces of AEQ will change the sim? While It's true that many pieces of AEQ balance each other out (make tackle vs break tackle, hold block vs. break block, etc.) there are also some that seem to be required at positions (i.e., +% deflect ball on positions that pass defend).

I guess my real question is do you anticipate coding tweaks in the event that some aspects of the sim become very unbalanced based on the change to +% AEQ modifiers?
 
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Originally posted by byrongame21
Question:

Are you guys concerned/putting plans in place regarding how the changes in +% pieces of AEQ will change the sim? While It's true that many pieces of AEQ balance each other out (make tackle vs break tackle, hold block vs. break block, etc.) there are also some that seem to be required at positions (i.e., +% deflect ball on positions that pass defend).

I guess my real question is do you anticipate coding tweaks in the event that some aspects of the sim become very unbalanced based on the change to +% AEQ modifiers?


Hard to answer that without actually seeing the impact. We'll be doing some balance testing with the AEQ changes in place before the rollout and if we see something that looks totally unbalanced, we'll make necessary adjustments. Same would hold true if we see this occurring on the live server after the change has been implemented.

So answer to your question is while we don't anticipate coding tweaks, we will make adjustments if needed.
 
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Originally posted by Catch22
Hard to answer that without actually seeing the impact. We'll be doing some balance testing with the AEQ changes in place before the rollout and if we see something that looks totally unbalanced, we'll make necessary adjustments. Same would hold true if we see this occurring on the live server after the change has been implemented.

So answer to your question is while we don't anticipate coding tweaks, we will make adjustments if needed.


Fair answer, thanks for the response.
 
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I added a 2nd MT and DB 5% piece to my safety in the preseason. If i knew it wasn't going to be refunded i probably would've gone another direction since the difference between a 5% piece and first step is 45BT which is 3sp. and the other SA would've been about 15 or 30bt so like 5-6 sp total. Not a huge deal to quit over or anything but kind of annoying since i wanted to compete to the best of my ability this season
 
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Originally posted by ricksta1975
...now thats just blown a lot of the building I had planned


Yeah, in one build I am out 20-30 BTs IIRC. Hes basically a 399 day trash heap.

A $129 buck one.

 
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Originally posted by chronoaug
I added a 2nd MT and DB 5% piece to my safety in the preseason. If i knew it wasn't going to be refunded i probably would've gone another direction since the difference between a 5% piece and first step is 45BT which is 3sp. and the other SA would've been about 15 or 30bt so like 5-6 sp total. Not a huge deal to quit over or anything but kind of annoying since i wanted to compete to the best of my ability this season


and for that sir you get screwed. glb

you exploiter, you
 
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alright, hate to do this but it's apparent people aren't going to stop.

I am locking this thread. If you have a question or concern about the AEQ changes, please send me a private message or contact Support and we will be happy to answer them for you. I will create a thread with questions that users send in and the answers they are given so that there is a one place resource for people to look at.
 
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