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Little M
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Originally posted by Time Trial
Originally posted by Time Trial

Is Catch Ball Chance going to be considered an O, D, or either for the % AEQ exchange? I have it in conjunction with intercept ball chance on a couple of my D dots and I want to know if I can convert it or if I should be trying to roll a new piece right now?


Can I get a response?


I am wondering about this, as well.
 
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Originally posted by zia_pd
@ Catch:
are you introducing a new +% category for blockers?

imo those are a good percentage of the dots that stacked their %-gains (hold block) and those do not have any other % to fall back on. since you stated that one is only allowed to exchange % for %, what should those dots (which are often unloved OLs and even less loved blocking TEs/FBs) do?

or did I miss a solution to that topic...., again


Originally posted by Mike1709
You can only swap out a % piece, but you can swap to an SA (of equal or lesser value)


since all SAs cost 30BTs or less, and about everyone caring enough to post here usually has +5% pieces, that means blockers (already unloved dots) are screwed out of approx 30BTs (with some people 60 BTs) each?

granted, 30BTs arent the world, but it is YET ANOTHER disadvantage compared to the defense......
 
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Originally posted by zia_pd
since all SAs cost 30BTs or less, and about everyone caring enough to post here usually has +5% pieces, that means blockers (already unloved dots) are screwed out of approx 30BTs (with some people 60 BTs) each?

granted, 30BTs arent the world, but it is YET ANOTHER disadvantage compared to the defense......


If you rolled the +5% in the shop, then presumably you saved a whole bunch of tokens by doing so, and as a result swapping to a 30BT SA is neither here nor there.

If you built the +5% piece (60BT's + whatever you spent on the attribute) then you will get that back if you sell the piece, you then just build the 30BT SA piece with the tokens you get back and you'll have 30 tokens left.

Just don't swap to a piece of lesser value if you've spent more BT's on the original piece, sell it back in S24 and re-build and you won't lose the BT's.
 
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Originally posted by Mike1709
If you rolled the +5% in the shop, then presumably you saved a whole bunch of tokens by doing so, and as a result swapping to a 30BT SA is neither here nor there.


This isn't necessarily true.

 
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Originally posted by Mike1709


Just don't swap to a piece of lesser value if you've spent more BT's on the original piece, sell it back in S24 and re-build and you won't lose the BT's.


This is where I get confused. If selling for a full refund and rebuilding is an option, then what's the whole point of having all the other restrictions?
 
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Originally posted by Seylan
This is where I get confused. If selling for a full refund and rebuilding is an option, then what's the whole point of having all the other restrictions?


Because if you bought it from the shop as opposed to building it from scratch, the full refund could be vastly different.
 
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Originally posted by Mike1709
Because if you bought it from the shop as opposed to building it from scratch, the full refund could be vastly different.


Ok, but there are a lot of "if possible" thrown in there about the refund for shopping. We'll just have to wait and see what they can or can't do.
 
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Hey Catch,

Since if you built a piece those values are easily determined. 40bts for +2 and then up to 60bts for +5%

Shopping is a huge variable and some people are going to lose out on BTs. Wouldn't it be easier to just refund ALL shopping trips to put people on equal footing?

AEQ is worked on as a group and having one impacts the next one so they are linked through that and might consume more shopping.
 
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Sorry for not responding to questions sooner. Wanted to wait until we posted our official announcement as that would answer many of the questions users had.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/announcement.pl?id=534

I'll be in and out of this thread the next week or so to answer legitimate questions concerning the AEQ changes.
 
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Oh man no you DIDNT

1. Only AEQ purchased before the announcement date of May 2nd, 2011 are eligible for a full bonus token refund. Items purchased after that date are only eligible to be swapped.


REALLY????

You cant announce half of a frakking change and then azz rape us with the second half two seasons later.

Thats pretty infuriating. % are working this season, why the heck would we not be able to buy them for two seasons waiting for your changes to actually happen?

Swapping is nice but not necessarily good enough. We were buying based on your expressed statement they would be refunded. This frikkin blows.

SECOND I don't have any in use on D, but as said above people do buy catching for CBs. You really ought to make that one Offense or Defense. Not fair to stick em like that however many people may be there.
Edited by yello1 on Jul 7, 2011 22:37:41
 
InRomoWeTrust
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I don't see the issue with only giving the full refunds on AEQ pieces purchased before May 2nd. They're still letting us swap, so a +% piece purchased afterwords can be switched to an SA.
 
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Are you going to let people shop this season for % pieces and then let them convert them to SAs?

If you aren't, you should clarify the announcement. Oh and make the cut off limit from the day/time when the announcement is clarified, so that the % pieces I just shopped for can still be exchanged
 
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Originally posted by yello1
Oh man no you DIDNT

1. Only AEQ purchased before the announcement date of May 2nd, 2011 are eligible for a full bonus token refund. Items purchased after that date are only eligible to be swapped.


REALLY????

You cant announce half of a frakking change and then azz rape us with the second half two seasons later.

Thats pretty infuriating. % are working this season, why the heck would we not be able to buy them for two seasons waiting for your changes to actually happen?

Swapping is nice but not necessarily good enough. We were buying based on your expressed statement they would be refunded. This frikkin blows.

SECOND I don't have any in use on D, but as said above people do buy catching for CBs. You really ought to make that one Offense or Defense. Not fair to stick em like that however many people may be there.


Don't really see a question here, more of a complaint, but I'll go ahead and address it anyway.

The announcement is standard for how we've done AEQ/EQ changes in the past. We've never let people game the system by purchasing items after an announcement to try and take advantage of new rules so I'm not sure why anyone would have thought otherwise. As for the expressed statement that pieces bought after the announcement would be refunded, please direct me to that post and I'll give you my sincerest apologies for making it as I definitely would not have ever implied that and if I did I was wrong in doing so.

You can still exchange them for other +% pieces or SA's so let's not act like they are completely useless in the future.
 
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Originally posted by mandyross
Are you going to let people shop this season for % pieces and then let them convert them to SAs?

If you aren't, you should clarify the announcement. Oh and make the cut off limit from the day/time when the announcement is clarified, so that the % pieces I just shopped for can still be exchanged


You can convert to other +% pieces or SA's, just won't get a refund option. I think the announcement covers this.
 
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OK great, thanks. The announcement makes sense then to me.
 
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