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TrevJo
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Originally posted by yello1
So why NOT do it that way?


+SA pieces didn't get nerfed
 
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Originally posted by TrevJo
+SA pieces didn't get nerfed


 
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Originally posted by ImTheScientist
The ability to do this will start day -8 of season 24? and go through?


Not sure of the exact date, it'll either be then or after season 23 playoffs are over. Sometime between those two dates.
 
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Originally posted by ImTheScientist
Can we get refunds for our +SA pieces we are holding onto as well? In some cases I was holding a +SA piece and going to use it...but now I may just switch the +% piece.


No refunds for +SA pieces.
 
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Originally posted by TrevJo
Originally posted by yello1

So why NOT do it that way?


+SA pieces didn't get nerfed


Yes, re read my post

People who made their plans, and bought non Nerfed SAs AEQ, may have done so in light of the nerfed %AEQ they bought on other pieces. Losing the one upsets their plans for all.

So nerfed or not, doesnt matter, its going to annoy folks.

We totally reset VAs not long ago for similar reason, same logic would apply here.

Making more people happy is a plus and there is no negative.
 
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So can I convert an old "+2% Break Block, +1 Shed Block" piece to "+1 Shed Block, +1 Strong Base"?

 
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Edited by TrevJo on Jun 29, 2011 12:32:45
Edited by TrevJo on Jun 29, 2011 12:21:21
Edited by TrevJo on Jun 29, 2011 12:17:05
Edited by TrevJo on Jun 29, 2011 12:10:19
 
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Originally posted by Brundog
So can I convert an old "+2% Break Block, +1 Shed Block" piece to "+1 Shed Block, +1 Strong Base"?


Good question.
I'm guessing probably not, just because they don't make pieces with a +% prefix available anymore.
Although if you had a piece of +2% Break Block +3% Force Fumble or something, I'm guessing you could trade in the Force Fumble suffix for Big Hit SA.
 
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Originally posted by yello1
Originally posted by TrevJo

Originally posted by yello1


So why NOT do it that way?


+SA pieces didn't get nerfed


Yes, re read my post


Your post was pretty unintelligible, to be honest.
I see what you're saying, though. Someone might have bought Monster Hit because they wanted to stack it with +25% Force Fumble. A full AEQ reset is not the answer, though. That SA piece is still useful. If an SA piece was good before the +% nerf, it's still good now (in most cases better). Offering a full AEQ refund would mostly just serve bail out people who either made bad choices with SAs or bad choices to build/enhance expensive equipment rather than shop for it. That would piss me off as someone who has chosen AEQ and budgeted BTs carefully.

Originally posted by yello1
We totally reset VAs not long ago for similar reason


Totally different.
1. VAs are normally only fully reset when other VAs were buffed
2. Unlike VAs in a normal season, you can still sell all of your AEQ if you want. (You just won't get all your BT back.) So you still have a way to get other AEQ if you feel a change of plans is needed.
 
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just to be god darn clear

%not fumble, is that considered an offensive piece ?
I have a 5% piece in my QBs shop, and obv would like to exchange that for a pass quality piece
 
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Originally posted by Catch22
#3 - for refund purposes, we will figure out total amount invested into piece including # of shopping refreshes if possible. Not sure if we will be able to account for shopping tokens but should try to if possible. If someone only spent 6 bonus tokens to get a +3, +5% piece, then they get 6 BT's back (plus any upgrades). If someone created a piece, they get full creation cost back.


So there's gonna be a refund of % pieces?

If I bought a 2% hold block +3 Strength with 2 upgrades I get 103 (55+24+24) BT back??

 
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24 24

Frakkity Farg, Daggnabbit I was thinking it was THIS season for some reason.

Oy vey. Why the long drawn out delay on this?
 
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Originally posted by TrevJo
That SA piece is still useful.


In your opinion

But not necessarily in the opinion of the person who bought it with the old AEQ system in mind.

To reset this so narrowly, with a type of gear so widely used, is just asking for unhappy customers.

As for the idea that this would somehow be an affront to the elite who never made a mistake with AEQ, really? You relish the misery of others that much do you? Not sure how that makes alot of sense, no offense. They aren't likely to make any better choices now, but they would be happier about the choice being based on current AEQ schemes not now outlawed ones. But I imagine, would hope, that there would be fewer who would feel that way than would be off put by the torpedoing of the AEQ plans if the current narrow reset is the one they use.

Edited by yello1 on Jun 30, 2011 01:59:47
 
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Wow, that's quite the drama you're producing.
You might as well ask for a SP reset too, since people built builds with powerful +% AEQ in mind as well.
 
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Originally posted by TrevJo
Wow, that's quite the drama you're producing.
You might as well ask for a SP reset too, since people built builds with powerful +% AEQ in mind as well.


 
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