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Dub J
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Originally posted by fogie55
makes sense and should be easy to do, but where's the cash incentive for Bort and Co? they hope someone really likes their pee wee guy and boosts him to keep him going forward
The incentive is this would be something that appeals to people that create numerous dots. Would probably be the difference in a lot of users creating 10 dots and 55 dots. I mean if you want to play the cash incentive card, this is one of the few suggestions that actually caters to big spenders.
EDIT: These players could still be boosted. Remember that level, attributes, and equipment resets. If the player is flagged for reset he would return to level 1 regardless if he is level 10 or level 14.
makes sense and should be easy to do, but where's the cash incentive for Bort and Co? they hope someone really likes their pee wee guy and boosts him to keep him going forward
The incentive is this would be something that appeals to people that create numerous dots. Would probably be the difference in a lot of users creating 10 dots and 55 dots. I mean if you want to play the cash incentive card, this is one of the few suggestions that actually caters to big spenders.
EDIT: These players could still be boosted. Remember that level, attributes, and equipment resets. If the player is flagged for reset he would return to level 1 regardless if he is level 10 or level 14.
Edited by Dub J on May 30, 2011 09:33:30
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+1 and I agree building the new player is fun. But you already know what direction your going with them in the Peewee Leagues. However from a stand point of making money it could hurt the game by a few hundred dollars per season. You pay to boost the players at some point in Peewee and only get 75% back from retirement if you go that route. And when you recreate them and follow suit each and every season it turns into 25% profit each season. Over the course of 10+ season it have been a good source of income so I don't see it changing. It wouldn't be good overall for business. You could even go further and say that if the players created for Peewee hang around longer and get boosted more, and the agent creates new Peewee players every season still the profits increase 10 fold. I love the idea but it would be an act of charity if this happens.
Dub J
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I really don't see how this is going to have a negative financial impact on this game. People create one and dones exclusively for peewee. People are going to create more one and dones if this is implemented. I really don't understand how you come to the conclusion that people are going to stop boosting their regular league players if this is implemented. There will still be the same amount of boosting dots in the regular leagues but more one and dones in the peewees.
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I didn't say people were going to stop boosting any player. What I was saying and only int he first part of my post was that people create/boost/retire. Only get 75% Flex back from that and Bort gains 25% every peewee season on every peewee player created. Then they have to recreate said player and boost again at some point. another 25% increase the next season so so on and so forth.
If they decide to keep that player and boost him further and put him in either casual or AI leagues and still create another Peewee player Bort then gains even more.
It does have a financial significance on the game any way you look at it.
If they decide to keep that player and boost him further and put him in either casual or AI leagues and still create another Peewee player Bort then gains even more.
It does have a financial significance on the game any way you look at it.
Dub J
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First, you get back 70% (not 75%). Second, peewee builds are not suitable for anything beyond peewee so it is very rare that anyone is stupid enough to change their mind and decide to keep their intended peewee player beyond that one season. The people that just use peewee as a farm team are still going to boost and move their players on regardless if this implemented. As I stated, this will only have a positive impact on Bort's wallet. At the very worst, it would have no impact.
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I actually think you only get 70% back I don't pay attention to it anymore really and if thats the case its a 30% profit off each player every season. Just resetting a player takes the cost of creating the player away and the money he gains from retiring and recreating that player with the boost that will occur at some point in that players season.
For example.
Guard = 100 Flex.
Boost 3 level = 300 Flex
Total 400
70% of 400 = 280
You lose 120 flex every time you go through the process for just a Guard. Thats not even including custom EQ.
400 for G 600 for EQ then an additional 300 for the level 8 upgrade.
So all in all 70% of 1300= 910
With it all said and done you lose 390 flex everytime you go through the process.
And that's just for a Guard. It increase so much more with the 200 and 300 flex cost players.
But I didn't count that because more then likely the EQ will be reset along with the player dude to the fact you wont have level 8 EQ at 1 lol.
And will have to rebuy the EQ anyway.
But it still comes out as either $1 to $3 loss for Bort each player every season.
For example.
Guard = 100 Flex.
Boost 3 level = 300 Flex
Total 400
70% of 400 = 280
You lose 120 flex every time you go through the process for just a Guard. Thats not even including custom EQ.
400 for G 600 for EQ then an additional 300 for the level 8 upgrade.
So all in all 70% of 1300= 910
With it all said and done you lose 390 flex everytime you go through the process.
And that's just for a Guard. It increase so much more with the 200 and 300 flex cost players.
But I didn't count that because more then likely the EQ will be reset along with the player dude to the fact you wont have level 8 EQ at 1 lol.
And will have to rebuy the EQ anyway.
But it still comes out as either $1 to $3 loss for Bort each player every season.
Edited by mike2686 on May 30, 2011 10:41:14
Dub J
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You get 100% of creation cost back, not 70% so that's not even an issue. This suggestion would have no impact because if you boost you would get 70% back on day 41 when your player resets back to level 1. With your player starting the next season out at level 1 again obviously if you chose to boost you would have to purchase the 3 boosts again just as you would if you retired/created as we have to do now.
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Originally posted by Dub J
You get 100% of creation cost back, not 70% so that's not even an issue. This suggestion would have no impact because if you boost you would get 70% back on day 41 when your player resets back to level 1. With your player starting the next season out at level 1 again obviously if you chose to boost you would have to purchase the 3 boosts again just as you would if you retired/created as we have to do now.
Like I said man +1, im all for it. If this were the case I would actually create more peewee players. I was trying to look at it from Borts point of view and see kinda how he would look at it.
You get 100% of creation cost back, not 70% so that's not even an issue. This suggestion would have no impact because if you boost you would get 70% back on day 41 when your player resets back to level 1. With your player starting the next season out at level 1 again obviously if you chose to boost you would have to purchase the 3 boosts again just as you would if you retired/created as we have to do now.
Like I said man +1, im all for it. If this were the case I would actually create more peewee players. I was trying to look at it from Borts point of view and see kinda how he would look at it.
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Not sure how $ could be any issue. We would not be able to do anything we can't do already. This is a time saving suggestion. If I could create players faster I would likely make more. More players in the game would be a great thing.
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yeah this is an awesome suggestion from a peewee perspective, but it seems that bort and co have in recent seasons been trying to discourage the peewee 'one and done' contingent, and I don't believe that this suggestion will ever get the votes required or be implemented unless there is argument for multi-season career players to be able to use it also! ...imo bort has been doing his best to find ways to discourage the peewee 'one and done' philosophy and redirect these agents more towards the multi-season career player scenario ...I'm surprised that rentable custom EQs was ever made to come about, but I guess bort seen an opportunity to increase his profits with rentable EQs
...anywayz for what this suggestion is worth to the peewee community, I give it a +1 ...but maybe there should be a check box or a button so that when you retire a player, it recreates it exactly the same to the specs that it started off it's career at before the additional SPs are to be added?!? ...the OP needs to be refined and updated imo coz voters would shoot this suggestion down just to spite peewee methinks!
...anywayz for what this suggestion is worth to the peewee community, I give it a +1 ...but maybe there should be a check box or a button so that when you retire a player, it recreates it exactly the same to the specs that it started off it's career at before the additional SPs are to be added?!? ...the OP needs to be refined and updated imo coz voters would shoot this suggestion down just to spite peewee methinks!
Edited by ManOgwaR on May 30, 2011 23:28:01
Edited by ManOgwaR on May 30, 2011 23:16:56
Edited by ManOgwaR on May 30, 2011 23:16:23
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