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I don't care if their vision is only 20 or whatever, because there is never a case where 2 WRs and a HB don't block 1 BLITZER

Also, a CB shouldn't be able to run through a WR....kinda common knowledge
THAT IS 3 ON 1

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The CB is not running thru the receiver. The CB's were set to "blitz" and not to worry about covering the WR's. The defense was not worried about your QB throwing the ball at all and tagged him as a rushing QB. So when that QB was in the game they just blitzed the CB's from the outside which is how defenses stop rushing QB's who either never throw the ball or suck at throwing the ball. If a rushing QB throws at times than you leave your CB's set to cover the WR's and just blitz the safeties from the outside. Rushing QB's will lose against a good DC every time.

Originally posted by whodey08
The CB is not running thru the receiver. The CB's were set to "blitz" and not to worry about covering the WR's. The defense was not worried about your QB throwing the ball at all and tagged him as a rushing QB. So when that QB was in the game they just blitzed the CB's from the outside which is how defenses stop rushing QB's who either never throw the ball or suck at throwing the ball. If a rushing QB throws at times than you leave your CB's set to cover the WR's and just blitz the safeties from the outside. Rushing QB's will lose against a good DC every time.



Ok, so you are saying that on a DESIGNED rollout, the WRs are supposed to ignore a blitzing CB?

I obviously know exactly what happened, and it shouldnt, and has never happened before from what i've seen...

Originally posted by zmj44
Ok, so you are saying that on a DESIGNED rollout, the WRs are supposed to ignore a blitzing CB?

I obviously know exactly what happened, and it shouldnt, and has never happened before from what i've seen...

Yes.

The WRs are set to run routes, so that the CBs follow them down the field.

I'm actually on the ropes with this one.

If you find the Singleback QB Rollout Weak in the Offensive Play listings, it does not show the WR's going out for routes.

http://goallineblitz.com/offense_plays.html

The WR vision is definitely low, so I'm going to try and find some higher level versions of this play.

If anyone else can find some to help me out, it would be appreciated.

Originally posted by Mightyhalo
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That shows what occurs if the CB's aren't blitzing.

Let's get a higher leveled one where CB's are blitzing?

I know its less likely to be a Defense used at higher levels due to the Dual Threat QB's that these Rushers turn into.

But there has to be at least one example..

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1471298&pbp_id=9455649

best that we have. its not quite the same, since its goal line situations, and they are bringing the house.
the WR1 don't try to block until CB is past him, altho the play diagram for ProSet QB rollout weak shows
the WR1 blocking, not running a route at all.

this doesn't bother me much tho, as usually, it is far better that the WR run a route to bring the CB with him.
this was just a goal line D we saw that fooled us, but cost them big time in the play-off rematch.
IMO, the WR route is fine, but there should be a vision check for the WR if the CB is blitzing
(if there isn't already) as this only makes sense- the WR, whether running a route or not,
knows in this play his sole objective is to block for the QB. so he should be paying attention,
and if he passes a vision check should respond to the blitzing CB IMO.

Originally posted by Pwned IRL
I'm actually on the ropes with this one.

If you find the Singleback QB Rollout Weak in the Offensive Play listings, it does not show the WR's going out for routes.

http://goallineblitz.com/offense_plays.html

The WR vision is definitely low, so I'm going to try and find some higher level versions of this play.

If anyone else can find some to help me out, it would be appreciated.

Thats exactly why I posted this, I have never seen it outside of the 2WR sets

I guess what it's coming down to for me..

The WR's are doing exactly what they are supposed to do in the OP.

They path up field 3-5 yards as it's shown in the play directory, before searching for their block.

Again, as most threads progress, the question arises of "Should they?"

This is not a question I can answer.

I am going to mark this as NOT LIKELY A BUG because the plays are working as drawn.

On pretty much every running play QB or not the WR starts out going straight up field like he is running a route, and if CB is set to cover will start out trying to cover the WR. The amount of time he spends going straight up field varies, but almost every time the first 2-3 ticks the WR goes straight ahead.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
On pretty much every running play QB or not the WR starts out going straight up field like he is running a route, and if CB is set to cover will start out trying to cover the WR. The amount of time he spends going straight up field varies, but almost every time the first 2-3 ticks the WR goes straight ahead.

Which is how the plays are drawn.

If the WR was drawn to immediately seek someone to block the straight line would be much shorter before the blocking symbol. It would look more like a T instead of a longer vertical line.

Example:

T

or

T
I
I
I

Originally posted by Pwned IRL
Which is how the plays are drawn.

If the WR was drawn to immediately seek someone to block the straight line would be much shorter before the blocking symbol. It would look more like a T instead of a longer vertical line.

Example:

T

or

T
I
I
I

?!?
looking at the play diagram for ProSet weak roll out, the symbol for WR1 is:

T

its the EXACT SAME as the O-lineman have blocking on the play,
which insinuates that the WR1 is doing the same as them on the play.
but thats not what the WR does, so it is an inconsistency with the diagram regardless.

Originally posted by darncat
?!?
looking at the play diagram for ProSet weak roll out, the symbol for WR1 is:

T

its the EXACT SAME as the O-lineman have blocking on the play,
which insinuates that the WR1 is doing the same as them on the play.
but thats not what the WR does, so it is an inconsistency with the diagram regardless.

I am talking about the OP, not your play.

In peewee with the buff to passing, I would throw with my running qb... just sayin