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mccollums
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On Oct 5 , 2009 Bort added the change where a defender would cover the HB or FB behind the LOS. I just watched my week 2 sim and my defenders are no longer covering behind the LOS. There are more examples then the ones below...

examples:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1479493&pbp_id=3685719
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1479493&pbp_id=3686185
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1479493&pbp_id=3685741



examples from previous seasons:
S17
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1328544&pbp_id=2997095
S15
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1163426&pbp_id=8082263

I've been placing my MLB pretty low behind the NT for a few seasons now.. and he usually runs behind the LOS and covers the HBs really well. Coverage settings are the same in the examples...

Edited by Catch22 on Jan 25, 2011 22:58:42
Edited by Catch22 on Jan 13, 2011 23:17:09
Edited by Stray Doug on Dec 17, 2010 23:51:31 (NEEDS BUG ADMIN VERIFICATION)
Edited by VolBrian on Dec 2, 2010 16:59:05 (Sent to qa)
Edited by VolBrian on Nov 29, 2010 17:55:45 (Likely a bug)
 
mccollums
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bump..

Bugs forum the right place for this?
 
VolBrian
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Could you specify what the defensive call for the MLB in question is and exactly what his tactics are?

Needs more info for now
 
mccollums
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MLB is set HB Strong or WR2 or zone
-80 to -100 man coverage distance- depends on LB- right now they are set to -100
Aggressive

This has been a standard setup and D for me for 3-4 seasons in competitive Pee Wee. I depend on that LB to cross the LOS and take away the HB screen plays and also get tighter on the HB for a pass to the flats.


Here's some examples from my scrimm this morning on HB weak or WR3 setting...
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1494062&pbp_id=3867882
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1494062&pbp_id=3866968

In the past, if you brought your MLB low and behind the NT, he would do a pretty good job of covering the HB.. and on the weak side, if you place your ROLB just a hair outside of the Left OT, he would stay pretty tight on the HB.. there's always been issues with man coverage distance at an angle.. but it seems to be worse this season. Wondering if Bort inside shoulder change is making the LBs stay even further away... along with not covering behind the LOS?
 
PING72
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These are similar. The LOLB is covering the TE m2m, but he just waits there until it is caught:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1479392&pbp_id=3678944
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1479392&pbp_id=3678525

I didn't run these defenses, but it appears the same thing as mccollums is pointing out. The LB covering the HB just stays way back. It past seasons, he'd run up there and cover him right away and blow up the play.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1479373&pbp_id=3678489
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1479373&pbp_id=3678969
 
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covering screens has been a joke since a few seasons ago
 
mccollums
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bump..

still need more info?
 
PING72
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Originally posted by mccollums
bump..

still need more info?


 
VolBrian
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I'll go ahead and change to likely and let QA hash it out. I'm not entirely sure tbh.

Likely a bug.
 
mccollums
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This post get moved to QA by you, or do they pick it up and move it into the QA determination forum?

 
VolBrian
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Originally posted by mccollums
This post get moved to QA by you, or do they pick it up and move it into the QA determination forum?



Another CS Mod is supposed to, but we're running quite low right now. I'll kick it over shortly.
 
VolBrian
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Moving on up now.
 
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bump, this is still a problem that should be resolved
 
Stray Doug
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I don't have enough background to know what's intended here... if the "SS/MLB covering HB behind LOS" on screen plays like this was intentionally modified or what all, I'm inclined to refer this to Catch at this point since nobody else has taken action on it.
 
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Originally posted by Stray Doug
I don't have enough background to know what's intended here... if the "SS/MLB covering HB behind LOS" on screen plays like this was intentionally modified or what all, I'm inclined to refer this to Catch at this point since nobody else has taken action on it.


 
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