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On this play, the MLB is set to HB or TE or Blitz. The HB blocks, and he blitzes.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1435062&pbp_id=2375929

On this play, the ROLB is set to HB Weak or WR1 or Blitz. The HB blocks, and he blitzes.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1435062&pbp_id=2384465

(Incidentally, on the first replay, the ROLB is set to Cover Man on the TE, but he doesn't move pre-snap.)

Is this part of the passing changes? Are there vision checks now to move down the progressions? If so, it seems goofy to miss a vision check and think that the WR1 isn't running a route. If not, I don't know what's going on here.

That last issue with your ROLB is easy. If the Dot is already in the Box, it wont shift over. Had you put him on the WR he would of shifted. On that second issue, the Dot doesn't shift positions for a Dot that isn't first in the progression.

cover man and cover man w/o move are a bitch and a half tbh

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1440090&pbp_id=2414398

SS ---> HB Strong, WR2, Blitz

HB Blocks, SS ignores WR2 and blitzes. I think this is the problem you're talking about?

Originally posted by Dr. E
That last issue with your ROLB is easy. If the Dot is already in the Box, it wont shift over. Had you put him on the WR he would of shifted. On that second issue, the Dot doesn't shift positions for a Dot that isn't first in the progression.

It has nothing to do with the shift, he is talking about the coverage. Even if a player is on the opposite side of the field, if he is set to cover a player, he should run across the field to try and get to him.

For instance, you may put the SS in the box and assign him to cover HB strong or WR 3. If HB doesn't go out for pass, the goal is that the SS runs toward WR #3 and then gets to him somewhere in the middle of the field where WR #3 has broken away from the CB covering him from the other side.

are you sure about this? Basically all of my defenses are if/then statements and I've never had an issue. I typically use cover man w/o move though, so if you are using cover man that might be different.

Originally posted by Dr. E
That last issue with your ROLB is easy. If the Dot is already in the Box, it wont shift over. Had you put him on the WR he would of shifted. On that second issue, the Dot doesn't shift positions for a Dot that isn't first in the progression.

I can buy that, but I lined him up out as wide as it would let me.

On the second replay, I'm not concerned about the dot not shifting, to the second read I'm concerned about him not covering the guy at all.

Originally posted by saintedix
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1440090&pbp_id=2414398

SS ---> HB Strong, WR2, Blitz

HB Blocks, SS ignores WR2 and blitzes. I think this is the problem you're talking about?

Yep, this is the problem I am having.

you have also never been able to put the ROLB on the TE where he would shift over as far as I know (and I've tried moving them to the far extremes of their boxes to do it and it hasn't worked. You can put them in coverage on WR2 though if you want to load up the strong side for example.

Originally posted by jdros13
are you sure about this? Basically all of my defenses are if/then statements and I've never had an issue. I typically use cover man w/o move though, so if you are using cover man that might be different.

That could be it. The second replay I posted was cover man. The first one might have been cover man w/o move, but I'm not sure because I already re-vamped the play since it was such a disaster.

Originally posted by jdros13
you have also never been able to put the ROLB on the TE where he would shift over as far as I know (and I've tried moving them to the far extremes of their boxes to do it and it hasn't worked. You can put them in coverage on WR2 though if you want to load up the strong side for example.

k thx. Now I just need to figure out this progressions issue.

Ok, so the issue here is that the defenders are reading a player being held into block and then skipping their secondary assignment correct?

If so, we'll need some examples from other teams to proceed with it. Shouldn't be long before this pops up with other DC's and teams if it is indeed a bug and not an error in your settings.

Needs more info

Originally posted by saintedix
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1440090&pbp_id=2414398

SS ---> HB Strong, WR2, Blitz

HB Blocks, SS ignores WR2 and blitzes. I think this is the problem you're talking about?

Just for a little clarification Vol, this doesn't happen every time with this defense, but only sometimes. So it might have something to do with a vision check perhaps? I'll post more replays if I see them.

Originally posted by saintedix
Just for a little clarification Vol, this doesn't happen every time with this defense, but only sometimes. So it might have something to do with a vision check perhaps? I'll post more replays if I see them.

Sounds good, thanks.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1493851&pbp_id=3475360

just created this play - set up is:

CB4 - cover man w/o move HB strong / TE / WR2
MLB - cover man w/o move HB Weak / TE

CB4 ignored the TE and went straight to WR2 on this play. Something goofy is definitely happening that wasn't happening before.