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jkid2
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Originally posted by mwoods07
That massive library will be like the VA's...you have a ton but everyone uses the few that really work...


I agree with this 100%
 
jkid2
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Originally posted by mikeandbrooke07
you want to balance things out? reboot the damn game and remove everything. then PROPERLY test everything before putting it back


This as well
 
imokdawg
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Originally posted by darncat

what we need is an OFFENSIVE PLAY CREATOR
not the removal of the defensive play creator,
and we also need the programmers to stop basing their decisions
on the problems of people whose ability to complain is much greater than their ability to game plan.


This
 
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Originally posted by TrevJo
This. I am shocked that Bleeds or anyone else actually buys that this might work.


Yea, this game has never been fun without a DPC.

Oh wait, no, it was most fun before the DPC.
 
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If you can't have a DPC without having unmanageable expoits then you can't have it. Answer is to have an ass load of off and def plays where it is impossible to match them all up. Might be more like real football.
 
DiMo28
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Great decision and LONG, LONG, LOOOONG over due! THANK YOU!!
 
darncat
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Originally posted by mwoods07
That massive library will be like the VA's...you have a ton but everyone uses the few that really work...


exactly.
any incentive to play is gone.
i can just play madden if i want canned basic plays.
and the new madden's will have for sure way more plays than this game will.
i mean, look how great the offensive play selection currently is
 
bacardi
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is this set in stone? or are you actually considering people's suggestions (eg. restrict dline movement in the dpc)
 
kurieg
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Originally posted by Bleeds
Yea, this game has never been fun without a DPC.

Oh wait, no, it was most fun before the DPC.


Not for me.
 
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Originally posted by Catch22
Originally posted by XUMuskie85

What if you have a defensive scheme built around dropping a CB back into a cover 2 zone with the FS and keeping your SSs around the line?

I hope we can submit some new plays that will allow us to continue this, since our defensive players are built around this.


We'll be having a contest where users can submit plays. I will announce it in a couple of days... just wanted to announce this first.


Yeah, we would like to submit our entire playbook

I guess if you had a ton of different defensive backbones with the same basic plays in all of them (albeit 30+ plays per backbone) then that'd be cool.

Thanks for the response.
 
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Originally posted by Catch22
We plan on revamping the blocking logic. It'll be much able to have it work correctly without the moving parts of the DPC.


And how many issues is your revamping going to uncover?Originally posted by Bleeds
you don't think that the difficulty and time investment required to coordinate effectively has significantly aided in destroying parity?

even so, my point is not that there are fewer variables for the user to contend with (though that will be true and beneficial), its fewer variables that the admins have to address (or get caught off guard by) when making changes to balance the sim.


I do DC and OC on my team and it never takes me more than 3 hours. The bulk of that is watching my opponents check downs, actual adjusting of my DAI takes maybe 30 minutes.
 
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Originally posted by Dmac2008
Great move by the Admins, this game was not improved by the DPC IMO.


this x100

EDIT: horribly off topic but those yelling about an O play creator need to stop talking. That would create more exploits than this one did. If you can't understand then you probably have no business in this discussion about the DPC.
Edited by bigtisme on Oct 22, 2010 11:53:30
 
darncat
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Originally posted by DiMo28
Great decision and LONG, LONG, LOOOONG over due! THANK YOU!!


another person who doesn't know how to play the game with his victory whoopdedoodle
why is this game being geared to the LCD?
 
TrevJo
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Originally posted by TruBucfan22
Ragequit


Or Snorequit
 
jkid2
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Originally posted by darncat
exactly.
any incentive to play is gone.
i can just play madden if i want canned basic plays.
and the new madden's will have for sure way more plays than this game will.
i mean, look how great the offensive play selection currently is


This as well I agree with because I play madden and the DPC was one of the reasons I like this better, but I might just go back to madden now.
 
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