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I think I have a good thing going with this build but want to get others opinions. Let the hate show begin! lol


Strength:26.74
Blocking:8
Speed:75.4 (+20)
Tackling:48.88
Agility:56.14
Throwing:8
Jumping:40.57
Catching:33.57 (+2)
Stamina:33.83
Carrying:8
Vision:56.14
Kicking:8
Confidence:34.57
Punting:8

He is too slow. WAY TOO SLOW!

Originally posted by ZXC
He is too slow. WAY TOO SLOW!

Hmmm... Why is he too slow when many WR's (which are typically the fastest players on the offense) around the league at his level have speed ratings of between 75 and 80? I can see if he's a little too slow but not WAY TOO SLOW.

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 9.41
Speed: 95.59 (+19)
Agility: 35
Jumping: 14.5
Stamina: 14.09
Vision: 57
Confidence: 14.5

Football Skills
Catching: 14.5
Tackling: 20.41

Special Abilities
Coverage Abilities
Change Direction: 1
Superior Vision: 2
Swat Ball: 1
Sticky Hands: 1
Closing Speed: 1

Additional Abilities
Disguise Blitz: 0

That is my guy at level 19 missing 2 upgrades worth AEQ so he should be at 97 speed. He has yet to boost 3x so he will be at level 20 before boosts and 23 by the time he boosts. I will be putting those 20sp into vision which will give him 65 natural vision, but with ALGs he will be closer to 67 vision. Your guy would still be 1 level ahead of me and yet my guy would have 22 more speed, 11 more vision. Your agility would far outweigh mine, but by the time we would be head to head my build would be far more effective as yours would be way too slow.

Physical Attributes
Strength: 10.29
Speed: 100.23 (+26)
Agility: 49.02
Jumping: 32.26
Stamina: 22.97
Vision: 57.02
Confidence: 31.76

Football Skills
Catching: 15.76
Tackling: 50.81

Special Abilities
Coverage Abilities
Change Direction: 1
Superior Vision: 4
Swat Ball: 1
Sticky Hands: 1
Closing Speed: 1

Additional Abilities
Head Hunter: 0

Veteran Abilities
Football Genius: 3


This is my non-boosting SS. He is one level ahead of you, yet same age. If you compared our builds, yours is well rounded, though mine is made to be a guy that will see action late in his career, when he is late 30's/early 40's. Mine has 100 speed, 57 vision, 49 agility, and 50 tackling. While jumping and confidence are at 31/32 stamina is slowly creeping up and agility will be up at 62/68 as well as vision.

Thanks for the input ZXC!!! Comparing apples to apples really sheds light on it.

So I'm reading loud and clear that I need to start pumping points into speed. Any other suggestions? Ultimately I'd like to get him to:

speed - 105+
agi & vis - 70+ (maybe agi to 80)
tack, jump, catch, stren - 60+
conf & stam - 50+ (maybe conf to 60)

Since I am a booster its hard to tell, but speed should be over 115 for a non-booster.

Speed: 115+ (Put 15 Veteran points in Ball Hawk)
Agility: 68+ (Get +3 Speed +1 Change Direction AEQ)
Vision: 68+ (Also get a piece of +3 Speed +1Superior Vision AEQ) (Put 15 Veteran points into Football Genius)
Tackling: 62+ (Get a +3 Speed +5% Make Tackle Chance) (Put 15 Veteran points into David VS Goliath)
Jumping: 48-62
Catching: 48
Strength: 48
Confidence: 48
Stamina: 48

If you find a team with decent DC you should only need 48 in Strength/Confidence/Stamina

Since I have never built a non-boosting dot besides the one I am working on right now, I would aim for those IMO.

Again this is just my opinion but since I have some good experience I would go with that, assuming its attainable.

Originally posted by ZXC
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 9.41
Speed: 95.59 (+19)
Agility: 35

That's just way way way too low agility.
guys like that get ran around all day regardless of their speed.
that's not good enough for a defensive lineman, let alone a DB.

Don't listen to that guy


Now, don't get me wrong, you'd like your FS to be faster than that...
you should have waited on getting the catching and confidence up that high,
and put it into speed instead. and with your jumping at 40 already,
you better be planning on getting Ball Hawk to the max as soon as you hit level 25.

you may have been able to maximize your ALGs better by sticking with your majors at first,
but you are not that far off so you still should be able to develop into a great player.
just keep in mind the speed.

to answer your question, you want your defenders to be FASTER than the guys they cover!!!
remember the offense knows where they are going the defense has to chase...
so you want to be faster on D to catch them!

Originally posted by 420sega
That's just way way way too low agility.
guys like that get ran around all day regardless of their speed.
that's not good enough for a defensive lineman, let alone a DB.

Don't listen to that guy


Now, don't get me wrong, you'd like your FS to be faster than that...
you should have waited on getting the catching and confidence up that high,
and put it into speed instead. and with your jumping at 40 already,
you better be planning on getting Ball Hawk to the max as soon as you hit level 25.

you may have been able to maximize your ALGs better by sticking with your majors at first,
but you are not that far off so you still should be able to develop into a great player.
just keep in mind the speed.

to answer your question, you want your defenders to be FASTER than the guys they cover!!!
remember the offense knows where they are going the defense has to chase...
so you want to be faster on D to catch them!

You realize my guy is only level 23 right dumbass? So lol @ you for your failure post. Here is what he currently is at. Oh and BTW, everyone who knows how to build zone SS know it is speed, vision, agility for order of importance.

Physical Attributes
Strength: 9.41
Speed: 98.35 (+20)
Agility: 36.76
Jumping: 19.38
Stamina: 17.97
Vision: 66.76
Confidence: 18.38

Football Skills
Catching: 15.38
Tackling: 25.17

Special Abilities
Coverage Abilities
Change Direction: 1
Superior Vision: 3
Swat Ball: 1
Sticky Hands: 1
Closing Speed: 1

I am only level 23 and his end build should put him with over 80 Agility and Vision naturally. You forget that it is lolminors builds that I have so far and by the time he is level 40, he will be able to preform like he should. I am more concerend about how he will preform ONCE he reaches WL and has 3 seasons to preform to his ability.