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He took a bad angle. That is a pretty good call against that particular defense.

What about here? All in m2m coverage and the CB just goes off on his own?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1344670&pbp_id=9382452

I swear this seasons defensive side of the SIM is a big joke.

Originally posted by Toriq
What about here? All in m2m coverage and the CB just goes off on his own?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1344670&pbp_id=9382452

I swear this seasons defensive side of the SIM is a big joke.


Yeah that looks like he started with double coverage on WR#2 and then changed to cover the "I'm open" calling HB.

Does he have HB as a secondary assignment?

Originally posted by Mightyhalo
Originally posted by Toriq

What about here? All in m2m coverage and the CB just goes off on his own?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1344670&pbp_id=9382452

I swear this seasons defensive side of the SIM is a big joke.


Yeah that looks like he started with double coverage on WR#2 and then changed to cover the "I'm open" calling HB.

Does he have HB as a secondary assignment?


He went off to the opposite direction of the HB though. The HB was on the strong side - and CB in question was on the weakside. I would find that especially funny if that is the bug.

Originally posted by TyrannyVaunt
He went off to the opposite direction of the HB though. The HB was on the strong side - and CB in question was on the weakside. I would find that especially funny if that is the bug.

A play similar to that one has been posted before with the same type of reaction. I was looking at the strong side originally. It looks like something funky is going on when DE's go into zone coverage because it looks like the the RDE gets the assignment on WR#3 and then the MLB picks him up late in the route.

Originally posted by Mightyhalo
Yeah that looks like he started with double coverage on WR#2 and then changed to cover the "I'm open" calling HB.

Does he have HB as a secondary assignment?


No. All WRs have 1 assignment...m2m on their WR. They have zero second coverage assignments. ZERO.

Basically, IMO(ns)HO, this is the absolute WORST and most aBorted defensive SIM I have ever seen in my 10+ seasons of DCing. It's just pathetic. The whole sim is ****** up beyond anything I've ever seen before. Simply laughable, really.

But hey, those O guys cost 100 more flex so let's OP them more and more and more and let then stack a gazillion VAs + AEQ - hell, why even have a defense. *shrug*

BTW, the CBs aren't in dbl; coverage on any WR. Each CB was set m2m on their WR.

Originally posted by Toriq
What about here? All in m2m coverage and the CB just goes off on his own?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1344670&pbp_id=9382452

I swear this seasons defensive side of the SIM is a big joke.


You do realize we haven't changed anything in the sim on defense for nearly two seasons (June 23rd to be precise)?

I also hate to tell you (actually, I lie, I don't hate to tell you this) but you're wrong. This is an all zone coverage with every CB in Cover Zone Deep . You might want to check your AI again.

Matching Input
Input Named: vs Shotgun >11

Possible Outputs
10% 3WR Zone All (base )
90% Sht3 Long yd set (base )

It called a play fro the 10% 3WR Zone package - specifically this play:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team_create_defense.pl?team_id=904&play_id=272673

Originally posted by Catch22
You do realize we haven't changed anything in the sim on defense for nearly two seasons (June 23rd to be precise)?


yeah, like there is never any stealth changes around here

Originally posted by Toriq
What about here? All in m2m coverage and the CB just goes off on his own?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1344670&pbp_id=9382452

I swear this seasons defensive side of the SIM is a big joke.


that's a cov 3 play, imo

Originally posted by Catch22
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Dang, I really thought I'd taken all those plays out of the AI.

Good catch, catch. Now I have to go back in and double check all to shot-put the zones. Doh!

Now they're gone and I actually hit "Update" which I'm guessing I didn't do before. Oops!

Thanks again! At least you posted again. Been a while.

Ok.. getting back to the original post from this thread...

Originally posted by Bukowski
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1293703&pbp_id=9420477

Looks funny to me.. I was trying to look if the QB performed a Juke that threw the CB off.. but from what I can tell he doesn't.. and is probably too far away to start Juking..

I'm going to mark this as LIKELY A BUG because the CB seems to stop chasing the QB for almost no reason.. :S

Originally posted by Gazeruth
Looks funny to me.. I was trying to look if the QB performed a Juke that threw the CB off.. but from what I can tell he doesn't.. and is probably too far away to start Juking..

I'm going to mark this as LIKELY A BUG because the CB seems to stop chasing the QB for almost no reason.. :S

CB stops chasing because he's not set to blitz and the code for rushing QB still has defenders not making breaks on them when they run until they actually cross the LOS. You can clearly see that CB is not blitzing and thus, in coverage, he doesn't actually know if the QB is running or throwing (silly I know) until the QB crosses the LOS then he breaks for him, but is blocked.

It's not a bug at all. It's actually been coded that way forever, TBPH.

from the discussions so far in this thread, I thinking this is probably not a bug, just a mistake in defensive play AI

Not sure why this got moved to not a bug with the QA determination and CS Mod disagreement. Switching it over to QA