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Originally posted by tautology
Originally posted by TheGreatPuma

Really, in my book it's a useless AT. You really don't need Tackling AND Blocking as majors. Plus the major in stamina is mostly useless for any player.


Major in stamina would be of value at some positions...but since STOPers get the only functional energy-related VA it makes even less sense to choose the archetype.



well, the FB ST AT has 4 of the 5 top STOP requirements as majors , then stamina as a major too, which means youll never have to add very much to stam to get good results. so why spend 30 sp on Hands?
imo it isnt necessary when you could use that 30 on strength , the one minor of significant importance, besides a quasi decent vision (also a minor) level.
 
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Originally posted by crave681
well, the FB ST AT has 4 of the 5 top STOP requirements as majors , then stamina as a major too,


which means that the ALGs are .4 instead of .5, which means that the build is probably going to be worse if 2 people of equal abilities are building them.
 
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on a quick note, do STOPs suffer from anything like out of position penalties? not sure how that could work, but it just popped into my head. didnt feel like hunting that down in other forums or the wiki.
 
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Originally posted by The Fromunda Cheeseheads
on a quick note, do STOPs suffer from anything like out of position penalties? not sure how that could work, but it just popped into my head. didnt feel like hunting that down in other forums or the wiki.


No if they are a corner they can be a stop and play cb, because they are still a CB.
Anyone on special teams anywhere, no matter what position, or archetype, suffer 0 oopp
 
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Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Originally posted by crave681

well, the FB ST AT has 4 of the 5 top STOP requirements as majors , then stamina as a major too,


which means that the ALGs are .4 instead of .5, which means that the build is probably going to be worse if 2 people of equal abilities are building them.


ya i agree combo corner woulda been better. Im still pleased to feature 5 Stops on my ST squad,
and doubt the .1 alg loss will make much difference since very few owners even bother with having that many and the energy losses their backups will take still put me ahead energy wise.
 
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Originally posted by Underdawg08
No if they are a corner they can be a stop and play cb, because they are still a CB.
Anyone on special teams anywhere, no matter what position, or archetype, suffer 0 oopp


Not quite true. Long Snapper position will suffer from OoPP, I've seen it and can provide the replays if anyone doesn't believe me.

 
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Originally posted by TheGreatPuma
Not quite true. Long Snapper position will suffer from OoPP, I've seen it and can provide the replays if anyone doesn't believe me.



ya only centers can play there or something, or what? I forgot about that one.
 
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Originally posted by Underdawg08
ya only centers can play there or something, or what? I forgot about that one.


Not sure, I just know I put a DE stop of mine there once and bort ripped his balls off.
 
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Originally posted by TheGreatPuma
Not sure, I just know I put a DE stop of mine there once and bort ripped his balls off.


Stupid Bert. he collects balls and puts them on his shelves as trophies.
 
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