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AngryAnton
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Originally posted by Enkidu98
Or, list who they are, don;t hide it, and if people watch their team and its more successful because it does a certain thing, emulate it.

Having testers who actually play the game is much better way to keep people who know how things work, working on fixes.

The whole 'anti-tester' bias is completely idiotic.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3781524&page=1#37862590
 
Doug_Plank
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Originally posted by Enkidu98
Originally posted by tragula

To be fair, player final builds was a huge unknown. If there is a bug preventing from SAs to to they job, this is really poor project managing. However, if problems lies in builds and dots interaction it would be impossible to test during alpha.


I disagree. Give me an afternoon and I cna create quite a variety of player builds. In fact, were this my game I would have had the tools built to build players and encouraged my friends/alpha testers to try to make a bunch of different players etc. I could create ample numbers of players to try out on teams and test certain situations.

I would have the ability to create a simulation of a single play, and run it for 1000's of iterations and data mine that.

Its hardly impossible,

And then in BETA you work on the fine tuning to cover all the things you and your alpha crew didn't think of.

But that we're not sure if they are even firing off at an acceptable rate _let alone_ knowing if the value they provide is worth their cost in SP's/balanced with the other SA's is a big deal.

It demonstrates exactly what you note. Really poor project management.


yeah but the SIM was ridiculously different back in Alpha -- less plays and they worked alot differently. Lots of tweaks to OL/DL interaction, no VAs, etc

Though I do agree that fundamental SA testing should have been done a long time ago, i do think going back to Alpha wasn't feasible since no one really knew how people were gonna min/max the sim.

But waiting until S17 is p ridiculous, especially if they aren't going to allow an SA respec once they are 'balanced'
 
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