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Nitschke
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i would love to make a point. While I think it is great you are stetting all this up to help people you make a point I highly disagree with. You say the 4-3 is designed to stop the run while a 3-4 is designed to stop the pass. This is untrue. The basic principal of both defenses is 7 men in the box, they are equal in stopping the run. In a true 3-4 defense the outside linebackers play close to the line of scrimmage, many people create a variation of it which looks like a 5-2. The outside linebackers job is to jam the TE or watch for a down block from the offensive tackle. Dont mislead people and make them think a 3-4 is a pass defense first type of D. A LBs primary read is always run first then pass. Both defense utilize 4 defensive backs allowing for the same variations of cover 3, cover 2, man 2, cover 1, etc.
 
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Has this been confirmed for season 4?
 
Zsirvone28
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Question:
The offensive sets can be flipped for some of these right? Or will for example, two WRs be on the left side of the formation in Single Back?

I'm just asking because I want to shift my LBs if it's always set to a specific side.
 
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How does the blitz percentage chance work in these situations?

I choose max blitz of 1 and assign percentage blitz chances to several players. Does it check each one until it gets a hit then stop? If so, in what order does it check? I would think that is checks in the order the players are listed, but it might also check from greatest to least.
 
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Are all the specifics in this guide official?
 
vtech9
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Originally posted by scarletmbb

Step 2: Choose your base defense

1. 3-4 D = 3 Defensive Linemen (1 NT, 2 DEs) and 4 Linebackers (LOLB, LILB, RILB, ROLB)
-----o Both ILBs get the “Defense General” bonus, but only one can activate per play (randomly selected)
-----o Generally the 3-4 D works better against the pass

2. 4-3 D (current) = 4 Defensive Linemen (2 DTs – 1 is an NT, 2 DEs) and 3 Linebackers (LOLB, MLB, ROLB)
-----o Generally the 4-3 D works better against the run


Now, here's where I have a question. You show that the 3 Defensive Linemen in a 3-4 consists of 1 NT and 2 DE's, which is true, but in real football, a 3-4 DE would be a 4-3 DT. How is it going to be set up in this game? Typically, a DT or a larger DE is needed to play as a 3-4 DE, and most of the DE's in this game are around 250-265 lbs. That is too small for a 3-4 DE. Will size play a factor when setting this up?
 
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I think I suggested this somewhere (probably buried in the announcement thread), but one of the 'Opponent's Formation' options needs to be 'Anything but Goal Line'.

Guess I'll have to make 5 inputs (to cover all the formations but goal line) instead of 1.
 
Merlin528
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Bear with me while i ask a dumb question.

Inputs are basically the formation setting and outputs are the plays in that formation?
Also can we run a Multiple D with mixtures of 3-4 and 4-3 even if our base Defense is 4-3?

Also, how do the Output percentages work with play calling? Say if i have 3 outputs for 1 input and i have all 3 set to 100% what will that do?

I'm a new GM and am just trying to learn the new system. Thanks for the help.
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Originally posted by Merlin528
Bear with me while i ask a dumb question.

Inputs are basically the formation setting and outputs are the plays in that formation?
Also can we run a Multiple D with mixtures of 3-4 and 4-3 even if our base Defense is 4-3?

Also, how do the Output percentages work with play calling? Say if i have 3 outputs for 1 input and i have all 3 set to 100% what will that do?

I'm a new GM and am just trying to learn the new system. Thanks for the help.


- No, inputs are based off of your opponents personnel and game situation (time, down etc.). If everything you specify in the input is true, it will run the outputs that you create (assuming the input is at the top of this list). You can run multiply formations for outputs all under the same input.

- Yes, you can switch back and forth between the base 3-4 and 4-3, but can't yet have separate depth charts (Please Bort! )

- If you have 3 outputs set at 100%, the sim will run them as if they were all 33% (99% sure of this)
 
Merlin528
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Originally posted by San Diego Chargers
Originally posted by Merlin528

Bear with me while i ask a dumb question.

Inputs are basically the formation setting and outputs are the plays in that formation?
Also can we run a Multiple D with mixtures of 3-4 and 4-3 even if our base Defense is 4-3?

Also, how do the Output percentages work with play calling? Say if i have 3 outputs for 1 input and i have all 3 set to 100% what will that do?

I'm a new GM and am just trying to learn the new system. Thanks for the help.


- No, inputs are based off of your opponents personnel and game situation (time, down etc.). If everything you specify in the input is true, it will run the outputs that you create (assuming the input is at the top of this list). You can run multiply formations for outputs all under the same input.

- Yes, you can switch back and forth between the base 3-4 and 4-3, but can't yet have separate depth charts (Please Bort! )

- If you have 3 outputs set at 100%, the sim will run them as if they were all 33% (99% sure of this)


Finally an answer! Thank you. That clears things up some more for me....
 
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No problem.
 
KingDan23
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Coverage distance - How close the defender sticks to his man, or what distance the secondary drops back to cover? Please let me know
 
Scoot
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i'll probably sound like an idiot but i still dont understand this part ...

"-----f. Underneath Coverage – This describes what the other defenders not in cover will do"

unless the MLB is in spy, doesnt that statement include everyone? if you pick a zone or man setting, everybody has an assignment ... which players exactly are underneath?
 
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Originally posted by Scoot
i'll probably sound like an idiot but i still dont understand this part ...

"-----f. Underneath Coverage – This describes what the other defenders not in cover will do"

unless the MLB is in spy, doesnt that statement include everyone? if you pick a zone or man setting, everybody has an assignment ... which players exactly are underneath?


The "Defense Shell" setting indicates how many players will play in the deep zone(s) (or "over the top"). The other players will be "Underneath" the shell. So, in "Cover 1" for example, you'll have one safety playing back in a zone while all other DB's (and LB's if needed) will play zone or man according to your "Underneath Coverage" setting.

Hope that helps.
 
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Originally posted by Kingdan23
Coverage distance - How close the defender sticks to his man, or what distance the secondary drops back to cover? Please let me know


I believe that pertains to players playing in a zone coverage and refers to the distance the secondary will drop to cover.
 
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