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Fumanchuchu
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Which is more important?

With DTs running 100 or more agility, I would think O line should be trying for 90+ to cut down Technique man. But how much blocking does a C need? 80-90-100?

Thoughts?
 
AngryDragon
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My interior linemen with 90 agility get reversed as much as my interior linemen with 80 agility. Not sure what the answer is.
 
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Originally posted by AngryDragon
My interior linemen with 90 agility get reversed as much as my interior linemen with 80 agility. Not sure what the answer is.


Same here.
 
crave681
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Originally posted by AngryDragon
My interior linemen with 90 agility get reversed as much as my interior linemen with 80 agility. Not sure what the answer is.


just curious, what strength do your interiors have?
do they have stone wall maxed?
 
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Originally posted by crave681
just curious, what strength do your interiors have?
do they have stone wall maxed?


It depends on their level but most are in the 120 to 130+ range. I never touch stonewall.
 
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Originally posted by AngryDragon
It depends on their level but most are in the 120 to 130+ range. I never touch stonewall.


Ditto. 130 Str, 95 Blk, 90 Agi and revcaked all the time.
 
vinman
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My C has not had a pancake in over a season..fackin pathetic.
 
Gary.
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Maybe I am not looking through closely enough, but I do not get rev caked to often, and I have stonewall maxed. I think stonewall is a good skill.
 
crave681
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Originally posted by Gary.
Maybe I am not looking through closely enough, but I do not get rev caked to often, and I have stonewall maxed. I think stonewall is a good skill.


^ this ^ .

i like it too. i had some very weak Cs and Gs that i used for ST, they were fast, agile, high vision guys, and while they did occasionally get rev caked, they also served pretty well on the line in all functions, and they had stone wall maxed.
 
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Originally posted by Gary.
Maybe I am not looking through closely enough, but I do not get rev caked to often, and I have stonewall maxed. I think stonewall is a good skill.


Your guys are low-to-mid level though. The problems are magnified at the Pro/WL levels once d-line builds start having lvl 64/72 equipment and tons of VAs in addition to completed attributes.
 
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Pro Center:

69/75
Physical Attributes Football Skills

Strength:143.89 (+38)
Blocking:100.33
Speed:64
Agility:77.74 (+7)
Stamina:56.74
Vision:69.74
Confidence:70.74

Pass Blocking Abilities 12477
Run Blocking Abilities 24800

Hold block chance +33%

VAs -
Great Blocker 15
Workout Warrior 15
Pass Blocker 15
Stone Wall 15
Natural Leader....1

Chance at not getting rev caked on 60-70% of all plays...0-5%

The above build is almost useless in WE Pro
 
kingj0n
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yeah even in level 45 range, my guy falls to his ass all the time.

130 str
78 agi

what do I need? Like 120 agility?
I'm sure fat centers in real life isn't that agile.

wtf is agility again?
my guy doesn't get pancaked, but he falls down. Gets touched and fall. wheee good one FLB.
Edited by kingj0n on Jun 15, 2010 12:11:40
 
crave681
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Originally posted by eastcoastbrian
Pro Center:

69/75
Physical Attributes Football Skills

Strength:143.89 (+38)
Blocking:100.33
Speed:64
Agility:77.74 (+7)
Stamina:56.74
Vision:69.74
Confidence:70.74

Pass Blocking Abilities 12477
Run Blocking Abilities 24800

Hold block chance +33%

VAs -
Great Blocker 15
Workout Warrior 15
Pass Blocker 15
Stone Wall 15
Natural Leader....1

Chance at not getting rev caked on 60-70% of all plays...0-5%

The above build is almost useless in WE Pro


i looked at your games, hes not getting revved on 60-70% of all plays! He does fine.

does he have too high vision vs. too low agility? I am training agility as the third attribute on my C, with a multi in stamina, vision can wait.

However, what if i went 130 / 75 / 100 str/blk/agi ?

Let me know if you think this is a viable counter to those high agility DTs.



Edited by crave681 on Jun 15, 2010 12:49:58
 
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You have to look at games against equal competition, not the AAA teams that moved up inappropriately.

As for is 100 agility better than 100 block....not sure. His block is 100 after getting it to the 68 cap and then doing nothing with it. He's had close to 30 points of ALG to that stat.

A couple of seasons ago agility and confidence where the two key factors and vision seemed to help, now, it's difficult finding anything that works, esepcially considering he's got a 30%+ to hold block chance, but is unable to hold against equal leveled players.

 
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interesting,

i just cant help wondering if high agility is the right counter to high agility , instead of high blocking , good vision , Balance SA, Hands , Pummel , confidence and everything else under the kitchen sink
 
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