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mccollums
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Tombstone Outlaws
Cleveland Horde

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Biodome
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The Insane Asylum - non boost/CE
 
EatDaBeaver
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MMD is non boost non ce
 
LordEvil
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lol the west always gets two bye weeks it seems. Guzz said his team is non boost or custom too. Thats 3 in the West
 
PING72
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I thought I remembered old comments about the Gulls, Surf, and Requiem all possibly taking it easy this year, too. Is that true?
 
LordEvil
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AC Surf isn't, Deertag is full steam ahead. He almost called it quits and rage quit last season after losing the 6th game in a row I think it was, but after cooling down decided to keep trying and made a great comeback, almost to the point of a playoff appearence. Gave my team a run in the air attack tourney too going up by 21.
 
Kaerey
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I think the intent of this thread wasn't non-boost no custom teams, but rather teams that said they would not be fielding competitive teams this season. And honestly I'm getting pretty sick of all this non-boost no custom stuff. If you don't want to support a game financially that you spend a lot of time and enjoyment in, then go play flash games

here's a few sites:
miniclip.com
ninjakiwi.com
addictinggames.com

I have still yet to see a logical explanation or organized movement to get something changed in the game except for a bunch of people complaining about spending money. And in fact a few seasons ago I posted a break down of how it's NOT more expensive to play pee wee than to continue leveling up players through the ranks.
Edited by Kaerey on May 18, 2010 11:42:10
 
EatDaBeaver
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yes but as far as gold playoffs are concerned, non boosting is non competitive.
 
Brother Grim
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Trying to get demoted, to get Maine up here. Don't know if it will happen.
 
juiceweezl
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Originally posted by Kaerey
I think the intent of this thread wasn't non-boost no custom teams, but rather teams that said they would not be fielding competitive teams this season. And honestly I'm getting pretty sick of all this non-boost no custom stuff. If you don't want to support a game financially that you spend a lot of time and enjoyment in, then go play flash games

here's a few sites:
miniclip.com
ninjakiwi.com
addictinggames.com

I have still yet to see a logical explanation or organized movement to get something changed in the game except for a bunch of people complaining about spending money. And in fact a few seasons ago I posted a break down of how it's NOT more expensive to play pee wee than to continue leveling up players through the ranks.


Get over yourself for a minute. CEQ is a terrible way to spend flex. 600 points for +6 is awful. So many of us agents have 5 or more dots (10 or more in a lot of cases). That's a ton of flex that has to be spent on CEQ. We'd all make more dots I'm sure if we didn't have to CEQ them.

On another note, give me the buy one/get one flex weekend, and I'll support all CEQ.
 
EatDaBeaver
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I take offense to the notion that all that work that I did, and am doing, to make a movement towards pee-wee pricing reform, was just me "complaining about spending money."
 
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Originally posted by LordEvil
lol the west always gets two bye weeks it seems. Guzz said his team is non boost or custom too. Thats 3 in the West


Practically every game in the east is a bye week. Fair is fair, right?
 
Kaerey
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Originally posted by juiceweezl
Get over yourself for a minute. CEQ is a terrible way to spend flex. 600 points for +6 is awful. So many of us agents have 5 or more dots (10 or more in a lot of cases). That's a ton of flex that has to be spent on CEQ. We'd all make more dots I'm sure if we didn't have to CEQ them.

On another note, give me the buy one/get one flex weekend, and I'll support all CEQ.


I know what it costs, I CEQed like 20 something players and I know that's no where NEAR the most from a single agent. If there was an organized purpose to this don't spend money movement I might support it, but just a bunch of people saying don't buy CEQ cause it costs money isn't productive.
 
Kaerey
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Originally posted by EatDaBeaver
I take offense to the notion that all that work that I did, and am doing, to make a movement towards pee-wee pricing reform, was just me "complaining about spending money."


What have you done? Made a League? messaged every owner? Have you ever put together a set of requests from GLB? Or just organizing people to not spend money? I"ve never been sent anything as an owner of a pee wee team stating this is what we want changed and this is what we are going to do until it is changed.
 
mccollums
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That's not why we're doing it.. i have no problem spending $$ to play this game.

We're trying to get Bort and GLB to be more reasonable to new agents and competitive Pee Wee agents.

Whether it's a little bit higher return rate on Flex or a cheaper alternative to custom EQ.. like PING72 and Catch22's idea for Pee Wee EQ at 150 flex. ... or both.

There's a few issues going on IMO... upfront cost is too high and there's a need for higher rate of return on flex for early retirement.

IMO the upfront cost of competitive Pee Wee is hurting the retention rate of agents. I can't get any of my friends to last more than a season or two. They spend 25bucks for 3200 flex and they get to create 2 players that have to share playing time because young dots have no stamina. They would train their player, look at stats and tell me this game was boring. They would say, "wow my guy had 1 tackle." lol

What about new agents that build bad dots the first go around? I assigned points to special abilities on my first dot. If I would have tried to make a long term dot out of him.. and boosted after his first season.. would have wasted my money. I would've posted in the forums to "rate my build" and been told to retire immediately. That's another reason why there should be a higher return of flex based on player age. A lot of new agents land in the competitive Pee Wee environment and follow short term build plans too. These agents don't have the knowledge to know what they want out of GLB yet.. whether it's long term dot building or competitive Pee Wee. Yet, they get charged at the same rate as a seasoned agent that's retired a dot 10 seasons old.

What about some of the game nerfs? I'm sure there were seasoned agents burned by game changes.. You map out a build plan and 2-3 seasons later it's out of date because of sim changes or nerfs. Yet, you still get charged at 70%.

There seems to be alot of scenarios where people get the raw end of the deal.. and all that does is cause agents to leave the game. I know the game is in Beta and things change, but there needs to be a more complete pricing structure that deals with this stuff. People don't respond well to unfair policies.. especially when they lose money because of it.








Edited by mccollums on May 18, 2010 12:59:37
 
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