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I gathered this info for a suggestion thread (to tone down special teams), but thought you guys may find it interesting:
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I looked up the stats for PeeWee gold. There are currently ZERO cpu teams. Some teams are obviously better than others, but all at least have all human players. In PW gold, through the first 13 games (so 208 total games), there have been:
*52 kickoffs for touchdowns
*143 punts returned for touchdowns

That is a total of 195 returns in 208 games, all against non-gutted (and typically very tough) competition. That is basically 1 return per game. It also averages to 6 returns/team.

Granted we're low level, but here are some comparison numbers.
*Only 16 total NCAA teams had more than 1 combined punt/kickoff return last season. The leader had 4.
*In the NFL there were a total of 28 kick/punt returns last season. That is through the entire season of 256 games. That is 1 return for every 9 games.

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Entire post: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3983396

Originally posted by PING72
I gathered this info for a suggestion thread (to tone down special teams), but thought you guys may find it interesting:
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I looked up the stats for PeeWee gold. There are currently ZERO cpu teams. Some teams are obviously better than others, but all at least have all human players. In PW gold, through the first 13 games (so 208 total games), there have been:
*52 kickoffs for touchdowns
*143 punts returned for touchdowns

That is a total of 195 returns in 208 games, all against non-gutted (and typically very tough) competition. That is basically 1 return per game. It also averages to 6 returns/team.

Granted we're low level, but here are some comparison numbers.
*Only 16 total NCAA teams had more than 1 combined punt/kickoff return last season. The leader had 4.
*In the NFL there were a total of 28 kick/punt returns last season. That is through the entire season of 256 games. That is 1 return for every 9 games.

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Entire post: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3983396

thats some good work...i agree it is a huge problem (especially since we've only had 2 all season) It seems the only way to stop a dynamic return team is to not punt...even still, when you score, you are either giving away good field position or 6 points on the kick offs

I posted this on Game Changes forum a week ago.. and didn't get much response..

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3967934

we need to make a little noise about this.. only way we can get anything done.

You know what really sucks?!?! You put together a nice long TD drive to tie the game and the opposing team busts the following Kickoff for a TD!

How much of this was teams building STOPS and boosting early?

I know I scored a whole bunch after I boosted my STOPS and return man...

I think this is a case of people needing to build better defense for special teams...

I find a lot of people concentrate on building players to block for special teams, and those people seem to find success scoring on special teams. Some teams build to stop returns, and those people are finding success stopping special teams.

I built my punter with 30 speed and 30 agility and 20 tackling to go with his 55 punting... but the speed and agility came first because I was tired of getting scored on during punt returns.

It has worked well for me this season.

Fix your builds, working as intended.

Oh noes!!! here comes EDB claiming it aint broke!!! Fix your builds!!! I agree it's a freaking joke!

i dont have STOPs...i use my defensive players who given their builds should accomplish the same purpose as a STOP

It isn't broken. Fix your builds.

Originally posted by MGeezy2186
i dont have STOPs...i use my defensive players who given their builds should accomplish the same purpose as a STOP

But aren't they tired? STOPs work because they are at full breath when they get on the field. Special Teams take a LOT of stamina.

Originally posted by Time Trial
Originally posted by MGeezy2186

i dont have STOPs...i use my defensive players who given their builds should accomplish the same purpose as a STOP

But aren't they tired? STOPs work because they are at full breath when they get on the field. Special Teams take a LOT of stamina.

no we have like 8-9 LBs, 6 Safeties, like 6-7 CBs...theyre really only getting liek 20-25 plays a game

Originally posted by LordEvil
Oh noes!!! here comes EDB claiming it aint broke!!! Fix your builds!!! I agree it's a freaking joke!

This. It's ridiculous, especially as someone pointed out when a score happens after you've had a long TD drive.

Originally posted by juiceweezl
Originally posted by LordEvil

Oh noes!!! here comes EDB claiming it aint broke!!! Fix your builds!!! I agree it's a freaking joke!

This. It's ridiculous, especially as someone pointed out when a score happens after you've had a long TD drive.

Except when you then return the following kickoff back for a TD! Happened in NOPW vs Agency. NOPW defense pitched a shutout, but Agency scored on 2 returns...but NOPW returned the following kickoff back for a TD BOTH times, lol. So twice there were back-to-back returns. That's a bit too much, IMO: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1163378

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1163378&pbp_id=12313495

DJ Cannon is too slow to be in that position. Too easy to get around.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1163378&pbp_id=12313716

Too many offensive players on defense.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1163378&pbp_id=12313922

This is the first quarter. Look how tired these dots are at the start of the play.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1163378&pbp_id=12315699

Punter has no speed or agility.

I mean... there are lots of things you could be doing to fix your game.

These (Edit from: This) bitch threads were me last season. I went back to the drawing board and I am MUCH happier with my special teams this season.

Originally posted by Time Trial
How much of this was teams building STOPS and boosting early?

I know I scored a whole bunch after I boosted my STOPS and return man...

I think this is a case of people needing to build better defense for special teams...

I find a lot of people concentrate on building players to block for special teams, and those people seem to find success scoring on special teams. Some teams build to stop returns, and those people are finding success stopping special teams.

I built my punter with 30 speed and 30 agility and 20 tackling to go with his 55 punting... but the speed and agility came first because I was tired of getting scored on during punt returns.

It has worked well for me this season.

Fix your builds, working as intended.

I remember you publicaly crying because your special teams couldn't stop jack a while back. It's funny how in one season you all the sudden became a genious and now it's our builds, give me a fucking break.