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Originally posted by Plankton
We need to understand promotion at the top to have any chance of recruiting properly. Please update us as soon as possible how promotion from cap 64 > Pro and promotion within Pros will work.

Definitely. This is going to stall free agency big time.

If AA and AAA leagues are uncapped, then what will happen when all the pro leagues fill up with max rosters, and there are still level 60+ or even level 70+ players unsigned?

Originally posted by Plankton
There is no doubt that the Elite and Competitive minor leagues are as competitive as you could reasonably hope for. However, have you looked at the Normal minor leagues?

Here is a team in Normal Minor 46: http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=5985

06/03/2010 at New Jersey Vikings W 146-0
06/05/2010 Antwerp Annihilators W 118-3
06/07/2010 Greer Rough Necks W 45-0
06/09/2010 at ARIZONA GRAVEROBBERS W 255-0
06/11/2010 Boston Blumpkins W 255-0
06/13/2010 at San Jose Demons W 30-7
06/15/2010 High Flying Monkeys W 255-0
06/17/2010 at Munich Maniax W 255-0
06/19/2010 Tuscaloosa Titans W 255-0
06/21/2010 at Cincinnati Stingers W 13-3
06/23/2010 CPU Team W 255-0
06/25/2010 at Toronto Rush W 255-0
06/27/2010 Norwegian Rams W 255-0

10 out of 13 games are 100+ point blowouts.

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Here is a team in the middle of the pack for the same league:http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=941

06/03/2010 at Shippensburg Ravens W 193-0
06/05/2010 Norwegian Rams W 169-0
06/07/2010 at Ohio State Spartans L 0-255
06/09/2010 Misctanbul Crusaders W 141-10
06/11/2010 at Carolina Wrecking Crew L 0-230
06/13/2010 Antwerp Annihilators L 3-171
06/15/2010 at Gold Coast War Hawks L 0-255
06/17/2010 ARIZONA GRAVEROBBERS W 115-28
06/19/2010 at Boston Blumpkins W 191-0
06/21/2010 San Jose Demons L 3-255
06/23/2010 Greer Rough Necks L 0-255
06/25/2010 at Munich Maniax W 245-0
06/27/2010 Tuscaloosa Titans W 237-3

All 13 games were decided by 100+ points.

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Now fast forward to the Pro leagues under the new system. There is no question that WL, and the Elite Pro leagues will be high competition. The competitive Pro leagues will also be mostly competitive with maybe a handful of bad games. However, the normal Pro leagues are very likely to look just like the normal Minor leagues.

Now, let's talk promotion. Would a team that wins Elite cap 64 go straight to Elite Pros? Would they go to Competitive Pros? or would they start at the bottom?

If they go straight to Elite, then what about the Pro teams that started at the bottom and are trying to work their way up? Is that fair that this Elite 64 team bypassed them? Would a team that just hit plateau and has not had the benefit of their last boosts be better than a team midway thru plateau that just had the misfortune of starting at the bottom of Pro and working their way up?

However, if that cap 64 team had to start at the bottom of Pro, then in the end, I would bet money that we are just trading crappy AA/AAA leagues for crappy Normal Pro leagues. The minors work well for the top half but they still suck competitively for the bottom half, so I see no reason to think that pattern would change using the same model all the way up.


edited: corrected typo

Yup. Which is why this league structure only creates more problems.

If we stay with leagues, we need divisions within the conferences. If we go away from leagues....

Originally posted by Bort
So proposed system is:

World League
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Current 8 Pro Leagues
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AAA (Elite Uncapped) - AA (Competitive Uncapped) - A (Normal Uncapped)
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Elite Level 54 - Competitive Level 54 - Normal Level 54
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Current Minor Leagues system

Pro teams:
- Bottom 2 Pro teams from each conference demote to AA.
- Top teams from AAA fill in across the Pro Leagues for demoted/gutted/CPU teams.

New AAA/AA/A:
- Bottom 4 AAA teams from each conference go to AA, top 4 teams from each AA conference go to AAA
- Non playoff teams from AA go to A, playoff teams from A go to AA
- Non playoff teams in A stay in A
- Leagues are sized to next closest 32, with any spillover in A filled by CPUs that could be bought. Spillover for AAA or AA would be filled by the next best available teams from A or AA.
- Leagues are all sorted by rivalry points to keep teams together as much as possible throughout their lives.

Lv 54 teams:
- Lv 54 playoff teams from any tier go to AA.
- Lv 54 non-playoff teams from elite go to AA.
- Lv 54 non-playoff teams from competitive or normal go to A.
- Bottom 2 teams stay in 54 as usual, unless over 54, in which case they go to A.

Lv 46 teams:
- Lv 46 teams with players over lv 54 will always go to A
- Lv 46 elite playoff teams go to A.
- Lv 46 competitive playoff teams go to 54 elite
- Lv 46 normal playoff teams go to 54 competitive
- Non playoff teams move as normal to lv 54 or 46.
- Bottom 2 teams stay in 46 as usual, unless over lv 46 players on roster

Lv 42 teams:
- Now go to 54 when going up 2 tiers
- Three tier jump can be requested to go to A if a conference champ.


This is the re-structuring idea we are going with right now. Please feel free to poke holes in it before we make it official.

It isn't a complete overhaul, but it will help parity/competition in the leagues.

That should tighten it up.

Originally posted by DigitalDaggers
This is the re-structuring idea we are going with right now. Please feel free to poke holes in it before we make it official.

It isn't a complete overhaul, but it will help parity/competition in the leagues.

I will be blunt and ask a question specific to my own team. Will a team in the top 4 or 5 of their conference in a current AAA league remain in AAA when this is implemented? In other words, what is the criteria for filling out the AAA/AA/A leagues the first season it is implemented?

Lest I seem rude. Thank you very much for posting the plan and promotion details this quickly. It definitely will help my team and I am sure many other teams know how to proceed with recruiting.

DD you might want to start a new thread with this info.