Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by BP
I don't like the changes..I'll be honest. The reason is for all of my players I have Virtual Build plans, some that I've been following for over 1 year, they are all going to be garbage next season.
Do I think the changes will make player building more interesting? probably..it's more intricate and interesting. Am I interesting in building new players and learning it? not so much..I've been here 2 years and really like THIS product. I don't want to start the learning curve over again. Am I interested in trying to salvage my Virtual Plans to fit the new system..not really.
That's the problem, it's not even the changes for the most part (but there are a few VERY bad ones..most are ok though), it's the fact that it fouls up everything I've put time and money into. I think that's the problem that alot of people are having with this whole thing.
New training system? ok
New owner responsbilities? ok
Do you think the CURRENT owners are interested in the NEW responsibilities? a good % aren't.
Do you think people who have dots on a plan are discouraged? yep
So yeah, I understand..Bort is trying to advance the product and all, and it's probably better. But it's also very different and he's going to have to expect those of us who BOUGHT the current product aren't going to ALL be happy and alot of us will leave.
I hope his Iapp is ready and he's going to advertise. But I will predict, right now..A HUGE drop in flex purchases and a HUGE increase in available teams next year. If he's going to change the product it's on him, but he's going to need to find alot of new customers to buy it..cuz alot of the old ones just kind of got screwed.
This is what I find hilarious...you have a plan and these new changes just made your player ultimately a ton better than the plan you are currently running towards. Instead of embracing the change and thinking about the great possibilities for your players, you would rather just have been average. Funny stuff.
My dots aren't average at all. What I find hilarious is that you think that someone making a plan and sticking to it and making dominant players is blah..but throwing a ton of variables at them 9+ months into their build should be embraced.
Maybe you just make average dots and you see this new thing as a big box of shiny new stuff, those of us who had a plan and were building awesome dots aren't so excited. You kind of just outed yourself...ouch
Originally posted by BP
I don't like the changes..I'll be honest. The reason is for all of my players I have Virtual Build plans, some that I've been following for over 1 year, they are all going to be garbage next season.
Do I think the changes will make player building more interesting? probably..it's more intricate and interesting. Am I interesting in building new players and learning it? not so much..I've been here 2 years and really like THIS product. I don't want to start the learning curve over again. Am I interested in trying to salvage my Virtual Plans to fit the new system..not really.
That's the problem, it's not even the changes for the most part (but there are a few VERY bad ones..most are ok though), it's the fact that it fouls up everything I've put time and money into. I think that's the problem that alot of people are having with this whole thing.
New training system? ok
New owner responsbilities? ok
Do you think the CURRENT owners are interested in the NEW responsibilities? a good % aren't.
Do you think people who have dots on a plan are discouraged? yep
So yeah, I understand..Bort is trying to advance the product and all, and it's probably better. But it's also very different and he's going to have to expect those of us who BOUGHT the current product aren't going to ALL be happy and alot of us will leave.
I hope his Iapp is ready and he's going to advertise. But I will predict, right now..A HUGE drop in flex purchases and a HUGE increase in available teams next year. If he's going to change the product it's on him, but he's going to need to find alot of new customers to buy it..cuz alot of the old ones just kind of got screwed.
This is what I find hilarious...you have a plan and these new changes just made your player ultimately a ton better than the plan you are currently running towards. Instead of embracing the change and thinking about the great possibilities for your players, you would rather just have been average. Funny stuff.
My dots aren't average at all. What I find hilarious is that you think that someone making a plan and sticking to it and making dominant players is blah..but throwing a ton of variables at them 9+ months into their build should be embraced.
Maybe you just make average dots and you see this new thing as a big box of shiny new stuff, those of us who had a plan and were building awesome dots aren't so excited. You kind of just outed yourself...ouch