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Originally posted by Sik Wit It


If you don't like it, you don't have to deal with them. Bort is making it optional pretty much.



Will WL and Pro have this nonsense when it goes live? I already know the answer--just want you to confirm it.
 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader

You guys that keep defending this crap should be ashamed of yourselves.

Not a soul who signed up in season 1 or 2 did so because they were looking for an outlet to build lockerooms.


Well it did say manage every aspect of a team on the home page so that may have brought some people in
 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Originally posted by Sik Wit It



If you don't like it, you don't have to deal with them. Bort is making it optional pretty much.



Will WL and Pro have this nonsense when it goes live? I already know the answer--just want you to confirm it.


I don't know the answer now...neither does anyone else besides maybe Bort and Catch.
 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader

Will WL and Pro have this nonsense when it goes live? I already know the answer--just want you to confirm it.


Because these changes will drive masses away and Catch22 will find himself in one.
 
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Originally posted by Plankton
My concern is not regarding team's ability to merge. I think that is essentially collusion and should never have been allowed.

My concern is with a team that is built from the ground up (level 1 to level 60+) and built very well. In this system, does such a team need to plan to build fewer players since the cap will hurt them as the players mature? Should they intentionally build slightly above average players but not real good players simply to avoid the cap penalties and the risk of going broke?


Build 40-45 elite players and 10-15 just above average players.

Even the Yankees/Patriots/Lakers don't have ALL elite players, that is just unrealistic.
Seems pretty simple to me unless I am overlooking something.

Surely the elite dot builders can build 2-3 elite players for the team they want to be on plus 1-2 above average guys along with them.
 
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So you want users to intentionally build inferior dots, but pay the same amount of flex that they would pay for a dot that they would build to be the best it could be? lolwat?
 
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are we still comparing GLB to real life? lol
 
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Originally posted by sunshineduck
So you want users to intentionally build inferior dots, but pay the same amount of flex that they would pay for a dot that they would build to be the best it could be? lolwat?


Haha yeah seriously that's why I don't like limiting the amount of good players a team can sign. Build effectiveness should determine player demand. We shouldn't artificially increase demand for poorly built players just because those are the only ones who can fit under the salary cap.
 
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Originally posted by MC_Hammer
Build 40-45 elite players and 10-15 just above average players.

Even the Yankees/Patriots/Lakers don't have ALL elite players, that is just unrealistic.
Seems pretty simple to me unless I am overlooking something.

Surely the elite dot builders can build 2-3 elite players for the team they want to be on plus 1-2 above average guys along with them.


Why would I want to spend flex on a player if I'm not going to try and build him to be as elite as I possibly can? Why would I spend flex on a dot and build him to be average? Doesn't compute.
 
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maybe all the bad builders should just start building good dots then no teams will really be elite except for whatever team has the most x-factor
 
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Catch, I'm back with more questions/suggestions:

1) Is hardcore going to be a completely new tier like casual or will Pro/WL teams be forced to move to Hardcore? Because if it's a complete new tier, tbh, I'm not sure who will sign up, lol. In all seriousness, GLB is enough time as is for the top teams, why do we want to put in even more to join a new tier that doesn't have the history/cache of the current top leagues.
2) Why is the $ reset idea being dropped? Doesn't this mean if I am a rich team with great builds, I can afford to max pay my players, pay the luxury tax and still get all the seasonal bonuses? I think there should still be some sort of $ reset even if it is to a very high level. Otherwise, power teams will be even more entrenched.
3) Do Resource Units still exist for buying equip? I see they're gone for buying shopping tokens and AE upgrades, but how are we buying regular equip now?
4) Does slow starter need to be changed or dropped? Seems like potential to be overpowered. If I will have a reserve bank to keep my morale >100 for 1st Q, then I don't have to be as concerned that the 5% penalty will impact my morale and thus performance and I will be more likely to have 100 morale for the 4th Q when the bonus kicks in so I am more likely to get the maximum performance out of the bonus.
5) Can we please do extensive testing on whether the pending conf changes are enough to offset this effective boost to starting morale? I'm with blln that I'm concerned it will make conf less relevant even with the 2nd half of the implementation coming next season. If MS is dropped, that probably will take care of it, but I don't think we'll know w/o heavy testing (including for teams w/ and w/o the various conf impacting SA and VA). If you're going to get a bonus to starting morale, then the overall impact of morale has to be much heavier, imo as an offset.
 
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make multi year deals with varied salary and have guaranteed money that counts against the cap the amount divided by the contract length. so even if they release that guaranteed money will still count against them for the deals length - Dead money
eg deal is 3 yr $2m contract. - $1.2m Guaranteed 1st - 200K 2nd 200K 3rd 400K


if we get caps we need flexible contracts
 
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Originally posted by sunshineduck
So you want users to intentionally build inferior dots, but pay the same amount of flex that they would pay for a dot that they would build to be the best it could be? lolwat?


 
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Originally posted by Timetoshine-Beta
are we still comparing GLB to real life? lol


How can people compare GLB to other games? What system is real life for?
 
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Originally posted by ptompkins
Idea,
if the issue of a 'salary' cap exists, why not just find new sources of funds. Heck, allow for higher ticket sales, allow for media revenue in lower leagues, or heck why not add more seats in a stadium.

Are you guys Democrats or something? Because you are starting to sound like Obama! Take my money and give it to someone that can't afford healthcare (or in most cases chooses not to afford healthcare).

Take the money I've saved with my team, the money I've worked for the last 2 years build up and give it to some other team that has no clue about money management.

Wow, I never realized the similarities until it just hit me. Taxed by Obama to death in real life, taxed by Catch in GLB. Next thing you are going to say is God doesn't exist.


Clueless analogy. Obama has lowered 25 different taxes. Taxes have only been raised on cigarette smokers and tanning salons.

Did you know that if you make over 109K you pay no social security tax? Did you know that if you make all your money through capital gains, you pay no medicare tax even though you are eligible for it?

Only people who make less than 109K pay into social security. Does it make sense for those who make more to NOT pay into it?

In the healthcare bill, singles who make 200K and families who make 250K now have to help pay for medicare an social security whereas before they did not. Do you fall into the above category (of making 200-250K from capital gains)? If so, then you need to pay your share of medicare/social security taxes. If you don't fall into the above catagory, then your taxes have been lowered.

Get yourself informed:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20002548-503544.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody

These are just 8 of the 25 different tax incentives Obama has put forward:

* An increase in the Earned Income Tax Credit
* An expansion of the Child Tax Credit
* For those who work, the Making Work Pay tax credit offered $400 per individual and $800 per couple
* For those who lost their job, there was a 65 percent tax credit to help cover the cost of health care. The first $2,400 in unemployment benefits went tax-free
* Up to $2,500 under the American Opportunity Credit for students and parents paying for college tuition
* $8,000 for first-time home buyers
* A deduction of state and local taxes paid on a new car
* Up to $1,500 for home improvements to increase energy efficiency

Sorry for bringing politics in the forum but I have to set the record straight.
 
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