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QB Eater
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I would prefer not having coaches because it is another thing to recruit and/or another player I will have to spend flex on if I want my team to compete and can't find a coach.

That being said, we do get free flex and it will only coast 100 flex a season to fully upgrade a coach--we usually get more than that in free flex.

I think the best question I have seen so far is why not have some relationship in terms of the coach benefit and the attributes of the player? Let's say that Brett Favre retires and Michael Vick does too. Would they be equally good coaches that first year? Would Vick be a better Coach for an offense that had a running QB? Would Favre be a better QB for an offense that ran a West Coast offense?

 
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Been mulling this over now that i think i understand it better. One thing is kinda bothering me still.

What bothers me is that a team collectively costs in the neighborhood of 30k or so flex to boost for a season, less if you run lean and more if you run with a full roster. A set of five coaches will take 500 flex per season to boost. Flex to create is hopefully not an issue, but if it is then there will probably be plenty of coaches to go around.

At most, this is an increase of about two percent in the amount of flex spent.
( 500/25000 x 100 )
Try it - break your teams down by cost to boost, put that number under 500 and do a division, then multiply it by 100 to get the percentage. I can pretty much guarantee is will come out between 1.5-2.5 percent.

I think some of the suggestions were pretty cool though. Looks like they are gonna fix coaches counting against the salary cap, for instance.

These game changes look to me like they are trying to make things that are cooler and give people more options. Maybe just to compete with other games features - it has been a while since I went nosing around for sports sims though.

One final thought is that if seems to me if they wanted more money, they would charge more for flex.


 
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should there be a limit on coaches per player? It seems that there are so many retired players available to become coaches, and there are only X amount of coaching positions available... if someone with a lot of retired players converted them all to coaches, there wouldn't be enough spots for all of the coaches. Combine that with very few new leagues per season and 20 season lifetimes... there will be a ton of season 17 coaches playing until season 38, and very few coaches ever seasons after that.
 
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Originally posted by LionsLover
should there be a limit on coaches per player? It seems that there are so many retired players available to become coaches, and there are only X amount of coaching positions available... if someone with a lot of retired players converted them all to coaches, there wouldn't be enough spots for all of the coaches. Combine that with very few new leagues per season and 20 season lifetimes... there will be a ton of season 17 coaches playing until season 38, and very few coaches ever seasons after that.


There will always be a need for new coaches at the lower levels, and after that i would expect it to be a supply vs demand situation.
 
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Another question on Coaches

Let's say you have some players on your roster now that are headed for retirement and a coaching future.....Do we have to let them go in the offseason and then send out another contract once they convert to coach, or can we re-sign them now and have them convert to coach while on the roster.

Reason being it will help for chemistry cost, also when they "convert" do they have to retire first and then purchase the coach option?
 
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Question...

Head Coach

--to become a head coach you must have reached level 49 in one of the other coaching positions (for the first ten seasons of Coaches, the requirement will be level 36).

Does this mean no one will have a head coach until the coach reaches level 36. So basically pro teams will be rolling with 4 coaches until the 3rd season?
 
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Apr 15, 2010 16:32:29
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So retired players just below the level of 55 are stuck in limbo? Even those retired prior to this "change"? (Honest question.)


Yes, you have to be >= level 55.


Seems like it would be better if you could use lower guys since you have an adjustment on levels for the 1st 10 seasons we have coaches. maybe allow a retired player that meets the 1st 10 season limitations as far as lower level to be able to coach. I would think this would help in getting enough coaches for each team,I see a shortage of them to start.IMo.
 
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Originally posted by tuba_samurai
There will always be a need for new coaches at the lower levels, and after that i would expect it to be a supply vs demand situation.


I didn't see any coaches level requirements. Will they follow the league requirements?If so that's still going to mean any coaches made in season 17 will be in high demand for 20 seasons.
 
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Originally posted by onemiln09

Apr 15, 2010 16:32:29
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Originally posted by Special K
So retired players just below the level of 55 are stuck in limbo? Even those retired prior to this "change"? (Honest question.)


Yes, you have to be >= level 55.


Seems like it would be better if you could use lower guys since you have an adjustment on levels for the 1st 10 seasons we have coaches. maybe allow a retired player that meets the 1st 10 season limitations as far as lower level to be able to coach. I would think this would help in getting enough coaches for each team,I see a shortage of them to start.IMo.


there will be plenty of coaches... don't worry
 
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Originally posted by LionsLover
there will be plenty of coaches... don't worry


Agreed, the bigger problem will be the pressure to increase the number of coaching slots per team, which will make this clusterjob of an idea even worse if GLB increases the number of coaches.
 
tuba_samurai
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Originally posted by LionsLover
I didn't see any coaches level requirements. Will they follow the league requirements?If so that's still going to mean any coaches made in season 17 will be in high demand for 20 seasons.


Originally posted by Catch22
a high level coach will not be able to coach a low level team. They will face the same requirements players do. For the first ten seasons, however, we'll be waiving the minimum requirement for a league since Coaches are new - this means that a level 1 Coach could coach in a Pro league.

We're actually looking at changing the way the basic AI is set up to allow people to select % for formation usage, so Coaches in casual leagues will have a bit more of an effect then if it was just basic AI.


Not everyone will want to make a coach. New coaches will be in demand, and then you have to figure that there will be some horribad coach builds, so finding good coaches may still be a little tough.
 
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Doubt very much if there will be FA coaches
 
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Originally posted by OttawaShane
Agreed, the bigger problem will be the pressure to increase the number of coaching slots per team, which will make this clusterjob of an idea even worse if GLB increases the number of coaches.


Well, I'm going to want positional coaches:

- offensive line coach
- QB coach
- running back coach
- Tight end coach
- WR coach

Then, on the defense:

- d-line coach
- linebacker coach
- secondary coach

I'm going to need:

- an offensive coordinator coach
- a defensive coordinator coach
- a diet & nutrition coach
- a conditioning coach
- a media relations coach,
- and a life coach (to keep our dots out of trouble).

Obviously, we're going to need a head coach to manage all these coaches.

All told, I think we're looking at a minimum of 15 coaches.

And I haven't even begun to list my scouting staff requirements...
 
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Originally posted by 5STAR
Question...

Head Coach

--to become a head coach you must have reached level 49 in one of the other coaching positions (for the first ten seasons of Coaches, the requirement will be level 36).

Does this mean no one will have a head coach until the coach reaches level 36. So basically pro teams will be rolling with 4 coaches until the 3rd season?


yep, i asked the same ? earlier in this thread and got a "correct" from catch.
 
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Originally posted by tonylieu

Doubt very much if there will be FA coaches


At only 4 per team and even less as you go down the ranks....I have a feeling there will be a LOT of FA coaches.
 
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