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Hi guys

I currently have a whole offensive line with the same VA's. They are:

15 Stonewall
3 Pass Blocker

Is this right or should I change them, I have been hearing that Stonewall is not it is all cracked up to be so I would rather have something better

Great Blocker
Pass Blocker
Showboat Blocker
Natural Leader (if your a C and have high LG SA)

Then all the other crap...

Originally posted by Thunder66
Great Blocker
Pass Blocker
Showboat Blocker
Natural Leader (if your a C and have high LG SA)

Then all the other crap...


so no love for stonewall then?

Damn, went to change them this morning and as the season starts won't allow!

Originally posted by Guernon
so no love for stonewall then?

If you build weak inferior olinemen then yes, Stonewell will help you.

Originally posted by Thunder66
If you build weak inferior olinemen then yes, Stonewell will help you.



SHAZAM!!!!

Originally posted by Thunder66
Originally posted by Guernon

so no love for stonewall then?

If you build weak inferior olinemen then yes, Stonewell will help you.



However, it could well be very useful if you are planning for the top leagues, playing against the best-built d-linemen in the game.

Stonewall has its place. If you're playing in the WL you're going to get rev. pancaked, especially if you're underleveled. Each rev. pancake not only affects the current play, but diminishes morale.

Confidence death spirals can really hurt in this game, both for individual players and for teams.

I don't agree with the logic (i.e. "_______ is only useful if your guy sucks in the first place!") but I still think Stonewall is lame.

I'm testing it out this season Rising, trying to see if it's worth anything. I noticed quite a few rev. pancakes this preseason.

I may switch it to Workout Warrior.

I noticed quite a few rev. pancakes this past fourteen seasons. Okay, I lied, I wasn't persuaded well enough into creating an account until season two.

I grabbed Stonewall when it was first introduced and it never seemed to help very much. Of course, the sim is always changing... and it's rather difficult to truly discern the effects of most any single thing in this game anyway. Sooooo... let us know how it goes!

Reverse pancakes in this game are a bit ridiculous. How often IRL do you see an offensive linemen get knocked on his butt by a defensive player? It's not very often.

As a guy who builds both OL and DL, I'd much prefer to see DL move an OL out of the way or go around them than have the game dominated by rev. pancakes. That better reflects reality IMO.

Originally posted by mandyross
However, it could well be very useful if you are planning for the top leagues, playing against the best-built d-linemen in the game.

If you have (or are going to have) a top league player your not here looking for advice (you've got the build plan and VA's already worked out from level 1).

They may or may not be looking for "advice," but most of us only have finite time and money to see every little variation of stats / SAs / VAs there are. Sharing is caring and it never hurts to lurk around and maybe learn more.

What about pulling G and outside blocker? It seems like those would go well together.