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Originally posted by John Waylon
So rewards points take the place of our free flex points, and if we use them as flex points there is no refund bonus on them...

Is that correct?

That is my understanding of it. Makes sense to me.

Originally posted by 77racing
Originally posted by Catch22

Originally posted by jbleich


Well I guess he could just stop giving them alltogether.......I'm all about the flex, but I dont see a reason he should give us 70% flex back for what he GAVE us.

You are seriously complaining about free flex?

If there's one thing I've learned in my internet life (before GLB as well), people will complain about ANYTHING on the internetz. Something about being able to hide behind a monitor gives people a great feeling of entitlement and power.

Pot callin the kettle there.

I think that apply s to alotttttttttttttttttttttt of people from what I have encountered over my time on the net.In my field of truck driving we call them on the CB Rambo's now that they have moved to the net they have become internet Rambo's.

i realize it is a lousy economy . this is a game . in economic terms its on the margin . it is made for us to spend what we can SPARE to spend . your account drops to less than 100 flex so you can not create a player? seriously??
i spend 10 bucks a month on my kids on line game . thats actually more than i spend boosting a single glamour player given a 40 day season .
i pay for internet ,i pay the electic and rent . if my kid said i have been playing GLB a year i can not build a new player without 3.00 to buy flex . i would have to tell him tough . right? wrong. free players do help the paying customers but I see folks making much ado about nothing . i put 20 buck a check to the united way i never miss it .
i see people talking about the vast yearly expense etc. oh my gosh i give a GRAND a year to the united way!! i must be freaking rich.
no it is called a budget its amazing how small purchases can add up . you have not seen the details and your complaining . wait uh oh i see a big problem . i can make a multi and invest less than 5 freaking dollars to have a cash farm team .
yep a dollar per 100 flex is so over priced i cant afford... umm wait maybe i wont buy a coffee at 7-11 on the way to work for two weeks voila' my glamour player is boosted for the season or three days and my ot is set

if you enjoy the game a couple bucks now and then invested in flex is worth it . if a program that is not even fully rolled out is going to piss you off enough to quit then you were gone sooner or later anyway .
i have played games that couild not afford to pay for decent support. they quickly became subject to exploits and back door cheats by the folks working for free so they could dominate all the time . its not much fun .
I hear people bashing Bort for all the money he is making and the sarcastic comments . he employs folks with the money he gets . he trys to keep the game fair .
my flex purchase helps pay so other folks can play free thats fine its a team game i do not want them to go but "being forced" to buy flex after you have played several season for free ? I do not see it that way.

as for not getting freebie flex backwhen you do buy flex and your rewards get mixed in with it have you considered that it is actually extending the value you get for the flex points you do buy? the assumption is its going to be like a100 flex points that were given before . maybe it will be 100 but you just dont get a refund so technically at the end of every third season just keeping active you could create a new non boosting player even if you did have 0 flex . and retired your old freebie player.

sorry to rant but giving the developers crap when we do not have all the details yet just ticks me off.

Originally posted by tuba_samurai
That is my understanding of it. Makes sense to me.

Ok, yeah, I'm down with that. That makes total sense. It prevents guys from scamming the system with free FP, and that's cool.

But here is my thing: I've invested in FP with my money, and I can get a return on those. I don't think I'm going to want to use these RP's to boost my players, so is there something else we can do with them?

I guess it doesn't make a difference either way because if I use the RP's as a part of a boost, the flex points that I won't be using as a part of that boost will still be in my account, but it just seems like using the RP's to boost is hurting me... (I know it's not, but it just seems strange.)

Either way though, is there anything special that the RP's will do for us, or is it purely a system to weed out the free scammers?

Sounds like GLB is hurting for money if they have to implement these changes.

Originally posted by thepigmarcher
I guess my time remaining playing the game has now been significantly reduced and I'll be done sooner than I thought, unless there are plenty of worthwhile changes to the game that make it worth buying FPs again.

Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

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Originally posted by SwagOnLock
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Overreact much?

I think so.

This isn't a major change, it's a change that aims at removing those who scam the system. Sure, you don't get return on them. But you WILL save by being able to save the FP on your account by using the RP's.

And TBH, only whiny bitches will whine when they don't get a return on something that has been given to them. Get over yourself, chief. You pay for FP and get your guaranteed return on. You're given RP, and you'll live with how they work. No reason to disagree with whats free.



Originally posted by pottsman
The one issue I have with this - long term non boosting players. I have a few friends who never want to buy flex. And they don't have to. But if a new guy joins, and only gets new reward flex...when he retires his guys who he boosts only with free flex...he can't play until the next "reward" time.

When you retire a player, don't you get the base amount of FP back for them? That will leave every member with at least 300 when they retire their player(s). If not, thats the way it should be.

Build a non boosting player with the free build offer and then use the RP's to boost him whenever you get enough. Problem solved and when you ever retire that dot you lose nothing.

Originally posted by pottsman
The one issue I have with this - long term non boosting players. I have a few friends who never want to buy flex. And they don't have to. But if a new guy joins, and only gets new reward flex...when he retires his guys who he boosts only with free flex...he can't play until the next "reward" time.


Originally posted by John Waylon
When you retire a player, don't you get the base amount of FP back for them? That will leave every member with at least 300 when they retire their player(s). If not, thats the way it should be.



Yes you do, but only if that new player 300 is still "real flex" after this system is put in place. And I agree that it should be, if only for the reason pottsman stated. Every new player should always own at least that starting 300 flex (yeah, I know you can spend it all away on non-refundables, but let's not get into that here).

Expect the number of users to explode next season......

Originally posted by Pena_FIN
Yes you do, but only if that new player 300 is still "real flex" after this system is put in place. And I agree that it should be, if only for the reason pottsman stated. Every new player should always own at least that starting 300 flex (yeah, I know you can spend it all away on non-refundables, but let's not get into that here).

Yeah, I didn't think about that, but I do agree...

It would take something exactly like is being implemented with the RP's... Each account would come with 300 Build Points, 0 FP, and would get RP as time goes on. Players can be built with BP or FP, but the BP are 100% refundable.

You then buy FP to boost and buy CE if you wish.

And actually, I'd say give out 500 BP. That will allow players to build at least 2, maybe 3 players and would increase the chances of them buying FP. Maybe I'm wrong here, but that makes sense to me...

I'm glad this is being put into place. The free flex is great but it really doesn't do anything major towards my account. I'm glad all accounts aren't being looked equally anymore. The only thing that should be the same for everyone is the sim.

Ive read most but not all of the posts and the problem being corrected is for people getting accounts for 400 free flex and buying teams to use as cash cows.

Easily fixed: teams cost 500 flex to purchase and 300 flex to maintain. ( Stops problem and give reward to real team owners who buy flex )

If I understand the other part about giving someone who you want to become a new member and be active in GLB 400 flex to start his account then if he wants to build a QB and join a pee wee team and he has a good time and wants to play pee wee again the next season he has 100 flex and gets 100 RP for the next season bonus. Now he can only make a 200 flex player?

When he retires this player then only 100 flex for the following season? If I'm mistaken I'm sorry for my ignorance but if this is the case then like another poster commented "Katy Bar the Door" the new accounts will be flowing in. People will just let accounts go dormant and make new ones to get free flex or whatever it will be called for new accounts.

Don't take what I'm saying the wrong way I have enjoyed the free flex but if the reason for giving it was not to thank the people who play the game for playing then just stop giving it out. I have purchased flex to build players and buy a team so I'm not one of the people just playing for free but if you dont think those free players are important and I dont know any of the numbers that Bort has but I would be willing to bet if all the freebies left GLB you could cut the teams down to about 1/3 of what you have now...

The one thing I know when we felt we were all rewarded with the normal 100 free flex.It did seem very much like a reward to me because it was truly free to do as I saw fit.I pretty much knew when to expect them as most of us all did.GLB anniversary,borts b-day,new season start,Xmas etc.
Now with these Reward Points going to start on day 41 when will these happen.Will they be for the same things as I have stated above.Will they be more regular and will they only be most common to big flex buyers.I am lost on this and as we are all yelling about the new changes and such.Why hasn't this been put down so people have some sort of idea of what or how to get them and maybe who wont as much or know at all.Can someone from Admin give the insight on this since its going to happen??,