I'm gonna make an OT then never boost him...
Originally posted by Catch22
Originally posted by jbleich
Well I guess he could just stop giving them alltogether.......I'm all about the flex, but I dont see a reason he should give us 70% flex back for what he GAVE us.
You are seriously complaining about free flex?
If there's one thing I've learned in my internet life (before GLB as well), people will complain about ANYTHING on the internetz. Something about being able to hide behind a monitor gives people a great feeling of entitlement and power.
I dont think everyone complains but people that wont say much to someone face to face will stand up and talk with a little more force behind their pc.
I am not real happy with this new rewards as its looking right now.If I get some for a holiday,b-day etc and make a player wrong or just make the wrong player then its gone and not coming back.I am thinking here then its not free and not really mine but a loan at one time and returned to the sender at anytime I stop using it.This reminds me of that old DvD copy program back some years ago.I think it was called DVD X-Copy you bought the program for 49.99 to 69.99 and had to call their site to activate it and when the company went out of business the program became worthless.I know its a freebie or a reward but if you give a reward then take it back was it really ever mine or a reward.
Like I said not complaining but just thinking this out in the forums with you all.
Originally posted by jbleich
Well I guess he could just stop giving them alltogether.......I'm all about the flex, but I dont see a reason he should give us 70% flex back for what he GAVE us.
You are seriously complaining about free flex?
If there's one thing I've learned in my internet life (before GLB as well), people will complain about ANYTHING on the internetz. Something about being able to hide behind a monitor gives people a great feeling of entitlement and power.
I dont think everyone complains but people that wont say much to someone face to face will stand up and talk with a little more force behind their pc.
I am not real happy with this new rewards as its looking right now.If I get some for a holiday,b-day etc and make a player wrong or just make the wrong player then its gone and not coming back.I am thinking here then its not free and not really mine but a loan at one time and returned to the sender at anytime I stop using it.This reminds me of that old DvD copy program back some years ago.I think it was called DVD X-Copy you bought the program for 49.99 to 69.99 and had to call their site to activate it and when the company went out of business the program became worthless.I know its a freebie or a reward but if you give a reward then take it back was it really ever mine or a reward.
Like I said not complaining but just thinking this out in the forums with you all.
Edited by MV Thunder on Mar 16, 2010 22:46:36
Edited by MV Thunder on Mar 16, 2010 22:45:46
Originally posted by MV Thunder
I dont think everyone complains but people that wont say much to someone face to face will stand up and talk with a little more force behind their pc.
I am not real happy with this new rewards as its looking right now.If I get some for a holiday,b-day etc and make a player wrong or just make the wrong player then its gone and not coming back.I am thinking here then its not free and not really mine but a loan at one time and returned to the sender at anytime I stop using it.This reminds me of that old DvD copy program back some years ago.I think it was called DVD X-Copy you bought the program for 49.99 to 69.99 and had to call their site to activate it and when the company went out of business the program became worthless.I know its a freebie or a reward but if you give it a reward then take it back was it really ever mine or a reward.
Like I said not complaining but just thinking this out in the forums with you all.
this? http://www.dvdxcopy.com/
should have just pirated it, tbh
I dont think everyone complains but people that wont say much to someone face to face will stand up and talk with a little more force behind their pc.
I am not real happy with this new rewards as its looking right now.If I get some for a holiday,b-day etc and make a player wrong or just make the wrong player then its gone and not coming back.I am thinking here then its not free and not really mine but a loan at one time and returned to the sender at anytime I stop using it.This reminds me of that old DvD copy program back some years ago.I think it was called DVD X-Copy you bought the program for 49.99 to 69.99 and had to call their site to activate it and when the company went out of business the program became worthless.I know its a freebie or a reward but if you give it a reward then take it back was it really ever mine or a reward.
Like I said not complaining but just thinking this out in the forums with you all.
this? http://www.dvdxcopy.com/
should have just pirated it, tbh
Originally posted by mikeandbrooke07
Originally posted by MV Thunder
I dont think everyone complains but people that wont say much to someone face to face will stand up and talk with a little more force behind their pc.
I am not real happy with this new rewards as its looking right now.If I get some for a holiday,b-day etc and make a player wrong or just make the wrong player then its gone and not coming back.I am thinking here then its not free and not really mine but a loan at one time and returned to the sender at anytime I stop using it.This reminds me of that old DvD copy program back some years ago.I think it was called DVD X-Copy you bought the program for 49.99 to 69.99 and had to call their site to activate it and when the company went out of business the program became worthless.I know its a freebie or a reward but if you give it a reward then take it back was it really ever mine or a reward.
Like I said not complaining but just thinking this out in the forums with you all.
this? http://www.dvdxcopy.com/
should have just pirated it, tbh
No this was how it was before then the company 321 Studios was closed down-- http://appfair.com/software/dvdxcopy-xpress.html?ref=google.com_products
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2004/08/02/321_studios_shuts_down
Originally posted by MV Thunder
I dont think everyone complains but people that wont say much to someone face to face will stand up and talk with a little more force behind their pc.
I am not real happy with this new rewards as its looking right now.If I get some for a holiday,b-day etc and make a player wrong or just make the wrong player then its gone and not coming back.I am thinking here then its not free and not really mine but a loan at one time and returned to the sender at anytime I stop using it.This reminds me of that old DvD copy program back some years ago.I think it was called DVD X-Copy you bought the program for 49.99 to 69.99 and had to call their site to activate it and when the company went out of business the program became worthless.I know its a freebie or a reward but if you give it a reward then take it back was it really ever mine or a reward.
Like I said not complaining but just thinking this out in the forums with you all.
this? http://www.dvdxcopy.com/
should have just pirated it, tbh
No this was how it was before then the company 321 Studios was closed down-- http://appfair.com/software/dvdxcopy-xpress.html?ref=google.com_products
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2004/08/02/321_studios_shuts_down
Edited by MV Thunder on Mar 16, 2010 22:57:12
Originally posted by MV Thunder
No this was how it was before then the company 321 Studios was closed down-- http://appfair.com/software/dvdxcopy-xpress.html?ref=google.com_products
LOL Sale Price: $19.95 USD $16.96 USD (You save $3 USD) - for a program from 2004 still being sold
No this was how it was before then the company 321 Studios was closed down-- http://appfair.com/software/dvdxcopy-xpress.html?ref=google.com_products
LOL Sale Price: $19.95 USD $16.96 USD (You save $3 USD) - for a program from 2004 still being sold
Originally posted by mikeandbrooke07
Originally posted by MV Thunder
No this was how it was before then the company 321 Studios was closed down-- http://appfair.com/software/dvdxcopy-xpress.html?ref=google.com_products
LOL Sale Price: $19.95 USD $16.96 USD (You save $3 USD) - for a program from 2004 still being sold
Someone would have to be nuts to buy a program that has not been updated in over 5 years to copy dvds.
What I was trying to say in using that for an ex was you never really owned it.You bought it and couldn't even install it till 321 activated it and then if you lost the hdd or pc crash whatever after the company closed you were sol with a disk only good for a coaster.Later on down the road a work a round came out but it was updated anymore and the program died out .Now some new company owns it
I am trying to stay on track with the op so I will stop here.
Originally posted by MV Thunder
No this was how it was before then the company 321 Studios was closed down-- http://appfair.com/software/dvdxcopy-xpress.html?ref=google.com_products
LOL Sale Price: $19.95 USD $16.96 USD (You save $3 USD) - for a program from 2004 still being sold
Someone would have to be nuts to buy a program that has not been updated in over 5 years to copy dvds.
What I was trying to say in using that for an ex was you never really owned it.You bought it and couldn't even install it till 321 activated it and then if you lost the hdd or pc crash whatever after the company closed you were sol with a disk only good for a coaster.Later on down the road a work a round came out but it was updated anymore and the program died out .Now some new company owns it
I am trying to stay on track with the op so I will stop here.
I echo what potts said.
If a new player joins creates one player.
creates his 1 player boosts him one time at the end of the year (or 3 if he's a OT)
then boosts when he gets rewards points he can manage this player but when that player is too old to retire, he'll only have the 70% of 300 or 200 + 100 or 200 or... 310 FPs.
Now this player has to wait till more rewards to boost him once if he creates a 200 pt player. Eventually this will go down to 0 and the player will either be forced to quit or buy FP's.
If a new player joins creates one player.
creates his 1 player boosts him one time at the end of the year (or 3 if he's a OT)
then boosts when he gets rewards points he can manage this player but when that player is too old to retire, he'll only have the 70% of 300 or 200 + 100 or 200 or... 310 FPs.
Now this player has to wait till more rewards to boost him once if he creates a 200 pt player. Eventually this will go down to 0 and the player will either be forced to quit or buy FP's.
Raising Prices is a Bad Bad Bad Bad Bad move.Should be lowering instead IMO.
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Originally posted by BORT
Even if it was 401, it would fix it, but it should be an even number
402?
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Originally posted by slashxtreme
I echo what potts said.
If a new player joins creates one player.
creates his 1 player boosts him one time at the end of the year (or 3 if he's a OT)
then boosts when he gets rewards points he can manage this player but when that player is too old to retire, he'll only have the 70% of 300 or 200 + 100 or 200 or... 310 FPs.
Now this player has to wait till more rewards to boost him once if he creates a 200 pt player. Eventually this will go down to 0 and the player will either be forced to quit or buy FP's.
I can see a major drawback to the new RP system, at least the way I'm reading it...
Since GLB is an MMORPG, it stands to reaosn that the game as a whole benefits from having a large player base.
I am sure that right now there are a lot of highly active and motivated Agents who do not purchase flex, and maintain their ability to play GLB by recycling the yearly FP bonus.
Under the new system, if non-refundable RP replace the seasonal FP awards, then eventually these free players will run out of FP. Since they have existing accounts, they do not have the ability to receive the 400 start up FP/RP to continue playing.
Result: GLB may not lose MONEY in the short run, but they DO lose a decent % of their player base, thus adversely effecting the overall gaming experience...and THIS may well translate into a drop in revenue.
Since an MMORPG tends to thrive on a large community, and since the free players make up a decent % of that community, it would be reasonable NOT to force those folks to pony up cash they may not have, nor to drive them out of the game altogether.
Sure, I recognize the need to differentiate between a Free and a Paid account in some way. And I also see that the old system can allow the accumulation of "free" FP to the point that here is essentially no difference between free or paid, but there MUST be some way to do this without potentially losing a good portion of the community...
What I suggest is this:
1) Allow the option of receiving a new 300 RP allotment in the 1st season AFTER RP amounts fall below 100 for any account that is un-paid (no FP), OR for any account with less than 100 FP (essentially "un-usable" FP).
to receive this 300 RP "replenishment", an account must have NO un-retired players, and must have no more than 100 FP/RP combined.
This allows existing free players who have depleted their old FP thru multiple refunds to still have the necessary points to start new player when their last FP's are gone. It also prevents
2) Set a maximum amount on the NUMBER of RP an account may keep un-used at any one time.
This would work much like Training Points, and would prevent people from purchasing an account, and "sitting" on it un-used until RP accumulate to a level where CEQ and boosts are obtainable immediately (just like a paid account).
If unlimited RP accumulation is possible, then it is really only a matter of TIME, and an agent's patience, that seperates a Free from a paid account, and without differentiation between free/paid accounts, you have a BIG dis-incentive to pay...right?
Besides...If the idea of free FP/RP is to get people in the door and trying GLB for the purpose of growing the community, you also want to ensure the freebies are USED to create players. More active players = more teams = more leagues, = a better game overall, right? But the RP/FP must be in USE!
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Originally posted by MV Thunder
I dont think everyone complains but people that wont say much to someone face to face will stand up and talk with a little more force behind their pc.
I am not real happy with this new rewards as its looking right now.If I get some for a holiday,b-day etc and make a player wrong or just make the wrong player then its gone and not coming back.I am thinking here then its not free and not really mine but a loan at one time and returned to the sender at anytime I stop using it.This reminds me of that old DvD copy program back some years ago.I think it was called DVD X-Copy you bought the program for 49.99 to 69.99 and had to call their site to activate it and when the company went out of business the program became worthless.I know its a freebie or a reward but if you give a reward then take it back was it really ever mine or a reward.
Like I said not complaining but just thinking this out in the forums with you all.
If you decide you need to retire your player, they arent taking anything back from you, you are choosing to forfeit what they gave you for free. Period.
I dont think everyone complains but people that wont say much to someone face to face will stand up and talk with a little more force behind their pc.
I am not real happy with this new rewards as its looking right now.If I get some for a holiday,b-day etc and make a player wrong or just make the wrong player then its gone and not coming back.I am thinking here then its not free and not really mine but a loan at one time and returned to the sender at anytime I stop using it.This reminds me of that old DvD copy program back some years ago.I think it was called DVD X-Copy you bought the program for 49.99 to 69.99 and had to call their site to activate it and when the company went out of business the program became worthless.I know its a freebie or a reward but if you give a reward then take it back was it really ever mine or a reward.
Like I said not complaining but just thinking this out in the forums with you all.
If you decide you need to retire your player, they arent taking anything back from you, you are choosing to forfeit what they gave you for free. Period.
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I always thought it was a little strange that we had the opportunity to keep 70% of what we were given free in the first place, but then again those freebies combined with old retirement flex has been what has kept me going for the last year and a half.
I guess my time remaining playing the game has now been significantly reduced and I'll be done sooner than I thought, unless there are plenty of worthwhile changes to the game that make it worth buying FPs again.
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
I guess my time remaining playing the game has now been significantly reduced and I'll be done sooner than I thought, unless there are plenty of worthwhile changes to the game that make it worth buying FPs again.
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
Edited by thepigmarcher on Mar 17, 2010 07:02:44
Originally posted by crd521
Originally posted by MV Thunder
I dont think everyone complains but people that wont say much to someone face to face will stand up and talk with a little more force behind their pc.
I am not real happy with this new rewards as its looking right now.If I get some for a holiday,b-day etc and make a player wrong or just make the wrong player then its gone and not coming back.I am thinking here then its not free and not really mine but a loan at one time and returned to the sender at anytime I stop using it.This reminds me of that old DvD copy program back some years ago.I think it was called DVD X-Copy you bought the program for 49.99 to 69.99 and had to call their site to activate it and when the company went out of business the program became worthless.I know its a freebie or a reward but if you give a reward then take it back was it really ever mine or a reward.
Like I said not complaining but just thinking this out in the forums with you all.
If you decide you need to retire your player, they arent taking anything back from you, you are choosing to forfeit what they gave you for free. Period.
What!!!
If someone gives you a reward and then takes it back was it ever a reward? If I am getting a reward and say I build a player with it and then didn't notice oh crap it was the wrong player,wrong build or I put his SPs in the wrong place by mistake.Now I scrap him and want to to fix my mistake and redo I cant the The reward points are gone so I cant redo or remake the player and I have lost my reward points,where did I get a reward if you take it back.
I bet if your boss or company tried this with you it wouldn't fly very well.This is a reward program with strings and it snaps back you lose what you were rewarded from what I see so was it really a reward or just a loan?
Originally posted by MV Thunder
I dont think everyone complains but people that wont say much to someone face to face will stand up and talk with a little more force behind their pc.
I am not real happy with this new rewards as its looking right now.If I get some for a holiday,b-day etc and make a player wrong or just make the wrong player then its gone and not coming back.I am thinking here then its not free and not really mine but a loan at one time and returned to the sender at anytime I stop using it.This reminds me of that old DvD copy program back some years ago.I think it was called DVD X-Copy you bought the program for 49.99 to 69.99 and had to call their site to activate it and when the company went out of business the program became worthless.I know its a freebie or a reward but if you give a reward then take it back was it really ever mine or a reward.
Like I said not complaining but just thinking this out in the forums with you all.
If you decide you need to retire your player, they arent taking anything back from you, you are choosing to forfeit what they gave you for free. Period.
What!!!
If someone gives you a reward and then takes it back was it ever a reward? If I am getting a reward and say I build a player with it and then didn't notice oh crap it was the wrong player,wrong build or I put his SPs in the wrong place by mistake.Now I scrap him and want to to fix my mistake and redo I cant the The reward points are gone so I cant redo or remake the player and I have lost my reward points,where did I get a reward if you take it back.
I bet if your boss or company tried this with you it wouldn't fly very well.This is a reward program with strings and it snaps back you lose what you were rewarded from what I see so was it really a reward or just a loan?
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