Warrior General Games

Originally posted by taurran
Originally posted by Warlock

Just remove the ability of players to select the VAs, if they're under 360 days old. Also reset it for free to those that already have it, who are under 360 days old. Let it work as normal for players over 360 days old.

This will allow the older players who do not have SP to take the new SA, a way to keep the ability, yet it will also remove the loophole of putting 1 point in and being able to max it in the future.

What is the significance of 360 days?

I assume that he says 360 because at that point, you have at most 12-15 levels left, 60 skill points. I think that day is too young, but it would allow you to invest in the new SA replacing your old VA. Day 400, 6 levels left, 30 SPs, would be better in my mind.

Older than 400 - keep the VA, be overpowered in your peak season, then start declining and fade soon. Under 400 - lose the VA, need the SA. It would be unbalanced for a good season or two.

Just get rid of all three VA's, its not that hard to figure out thats what needs to be done

Originally posted by pottsman


I assume that he says 360 because at that point, you have at most 12-15 levels left, 60 skill points. I think that day is too young, but it would allow you to invest in the new SA replacing your old VA. Day 400, 6 levels left, 30 SPs, would be better in my mind.

Older than 400 - keep the VA, be overpowered in your peak season, then start declining and fade soon. Under 400 - lose the VA, need the SA. It would be unbalanced for a good season or two.

Yeah, that's fair. So the older players who already have more VA's have full builds, meanwhile the 360 day old players never have a chance to finish their build plan if they want to be able to Scat Back....and even at that the older players will be better at it because the VA > SA.

Get rid of the 3 completely or give the backs 1 reset point and the defense 2 reset points.

Basically we will all figure out what we get stuck with, and as problems arise hopefully they will be addressed in future seasons.

This is an obvious issue that should be determined prior to the kick-off, but if not we have all been guinea pigs in the past.

My concern is the lack of agents willing to build for season 15!
I'm eager to build some new archetype players, but I'm feeling a lot of indecision with-in the 17 team franchise I am involved in.
Normally we have no problem filling 3 pee wee teams and a cap4 team.
For Season 15 we are attempting to fill
2 pee wee rosters that are cut way down depth wise (normally 42-46ish, now down to 32-35ish)
& 1 cap 4 team for the new archetype long term players.

Normally by this time of the season all would be committed for.
This season we have:
#1-PW - 16 of 32 committed
#2-PW - 4 of 32 committed
Cap 4 - 12 of 35 committed
We will have to go out of the franchise as most do.
I hope all these changes are not pushing long term agents away & reducing the income to GLB.
Gotta say though, you guys are making my franchise position (job) more difficult.

Originally posted by StoutOne DTD


Get rid of the 3 completely or give the backs 1 reset point and the defense 2 reset points.

I agree with this. Although, I would prefer getting rid of them completely.

Originally posted by pottsman
I assume that he says 360 because at that point, you have at most 12-15 levels left, 60 skill points. I think that day is too young, but it would allow you to invest in the new SA replacing your old VA. Day 400, 6 levels left, 30 SPs, would be better in my mind.

Older than 400 - keep the VA, be overpowered in your peak season, then start declining and fade soon. Under 400 - lose the VA, need the SA. It would be unbalanced for a good season or two.

Ummm... you stop getting XP at day 400, so you'd have 15 SP if you boost. At 360 days you have 2.6 levels worth of XP and up to 6 boosts, which is anywhere from 10-45 SP (depending on your specific situation). It costs 32 SP to take an SA from 1 to 10.

While the VAs are supposedly better than the SA equivalents, the current plan either allows a pretty big loophole or screws over people who aren't psychic (that maybe wanted the VAs but invested elsewhere first).

Removing the VAs immediately, completely screws over the vets who won't have the SP to invest in the new SAs (due to age and lack of new levels)... this is unacceptable IMHO... which is why I suggested what I did.

Originally posted by StoutOne DTD
Yeah, that's fair. So the older players who already have more VA's have full builds, meanwhile the 360 day old players never have a chance to finish their build plan if they want to be able to Scat Back....and even at that the older players will be better at it because the VA > SA.

Get rid of the 3 completely or give the backs 1 reset point and the defense 2 reset points.

Younger players can choose the archetype and take the SA if they want... older players do not have the necessary SP to do so... what's so hard to understand? Plus in a few seasons, the VAs would be totally removed from the game as the older players retire.

Originally posted by Warlock
Originally posted by StoutOne DTD

Yeah, that's fair. So the older players who already have more VA's have full builds, meanwhile the 360 day old players never have a chance to finish their build plan if they want to be able to Scat Back....and even at that the older players will be better at it because the VA > SA.

Get rid of the 3 completely or give the backs 1 reset point and the defense 2 reset points.

Younger players can choose the archetype and take the SA if they want... older players do not have the necessary SP to do so... what's so hard to understand?

Older players are getting an unfair advantage, business as usual, I guess. I'm sure you're fine with it.

all 5 of my CBs were working up Jackhammer since it requires 50 strength...they were about halfway done.

Now we gotta reset it because 8 jackhammer is a waste. I am sure quite a few people are stuck in a midway points with all 3 of the announced VAs

Remove the 3 VAs from the game. Otherwise those who knew about the change early on will have a HUGE advantage.

oh are there VA changes coming?

yeah just remove the VA from the game and give the people their VA's points back....

Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by jdbolick

They've got to wipe out those VAs entirely if they're not going to allow other people to add them. Letting one subset of users have access while another does not is not only ridiculously unfair, but a recipe for sim disaster.
Come on, Catchazy. This is a no-brainer. Not only would you have forum riots from letting one group use the VAs while most can't, but it's obviously a competitive advantage.

Seconded.

A season 7 or 8 secondary player with ZS and Jackhammer maxed will have a huge advantage for most of their careers. The new trend in GLB seems to be to give massive advantages based purely on having the right random build variable when they decide to drop a massive change out of the blue. Next it'll probably be god mode to any player with a name begining and ending in Z

lolglb

Originally posted by Catch22
From the locked thread:

Originally posted by Catch22



One, it was certainly never "hidden" information. It's been posted in a very visible forum in a stickied thread. However, I understand that not everyone reads the forums and should have made an announcement about it so for that I'll apologize. Wasn't meant to be a loophole, it was meant to be a way for people to keep the VA that currently have relied on the VA since it'll now cost skill points to have as an SA.

That being said, I don't want to encourage people putting one point in it just to be able to use it, so I'll talk with Bort about not being able to add points into it as of the rollout date of the archetypes.



Reading the forums is a complete waste of time. Make announcements. Create a new page and title it "NEWS."

There are so many good ways to get information to the community that are completely ignored and you wonder why everyone bitches and throws temper tantrums.

it'll now cost skill points to have as an SA.


Say What !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you kidding me on this or is it really gonna be