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DiMo28
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Any thought to having a tiered cost to VAs like SAs?

1-10 could cost 1 VA point,
11-15 could cost 2 VA points,

You would have to pay a premium to get the full value and maybe encourage using some other ones.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
A lot of those SA's you mention just don't have the power to show legit results tho and whats worse is we can't see it working...you can make guesses to whether it is or not...but nobody even knows for sure. I will be interested to read Catch's results after he takes a look at them when he does.

I would venture to guess most high level corners (on good teams) have a pretty good investment in all of the things you mention. Yet they are still getting stifled through the air against a good WR.


I guess my question is you say they are getting beat but I can show you tons of threads that say that the exact opposite is happening and most teams are not completing 50% of their passes.

The fact is that the average user doesn't understand the game enough to build players like the above until it becomes a cookie cutter build. Honestly I think power WR's will be the flavor of season 20-22. You might see some that are built like this but you would have to have a good team around him to make it work because otherwise that build will be and can be beat by a solid CB build.
 
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Originally posted by Pietasters
I guess my question is you say they are getting beat but I can show you tons of threads that say that the exact opposite is happening and most teams are not completing 50% of their passes.

The fact is that the average user doesn't understand the game enough to build players like the above until it becomes a cookie cutter build. Honestly I think power WR's will be the flavor of season 20-22. You might see some that are built like this but you would have to have a good team around him to make it work because otherwise that build will be and can be beat by a solid CB build.


Plz note I mentioned "High Levels" and "Good WR". I have looked through upwards of 30 teams builds during the season because they were unsure what was going wrong...and it was poor builds/va selection for the most part.
 
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Really, as much as I dislike Tauran, he has a point on the removed VAs. They should simply be removed altogether from the game starting next season (Scat Back, Zone Spec, Jack Hammer) and the VPs returned to the player to be spent on something else. Considering the player should have their boost still for the season, they can then re-up those new SAs instead in order to maintain functionality.

It's silly to put a loophole in the system that can be exploited such as: put 1 point in any of them this season so that you can max them later!

Hell if your really worried about messing up builds that depend on these things (really we are only talking about Scat Back since Jack Hammer is relatively useless in the current sim, as is Zone Spec since it has been nerfed) at the highest levels, then make it to where the only players that get to keep them are those that will be 441+ days old at the start of next season. Essentially anyone that wont have a boost to add points into the new SA would be grandfathered, all others must adjust by dumping SP into the new SAs.
 
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