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I thought when i 1st saw this list that the HB combo choice had speed, carrying, strength, and vision as majors.

Now today i noticed that strength is now a minor and confidence is a major.

Can someone confirm or deny my suspicion?

If i am right then they really have screwed up the RB choices....Now elusive and returner are both better than combo or power which seems a bit silly.

There should be one good elusive choice and one good power choice instead of 2 good elusive choices and no good power choices.

Oh and 1st!

Yes, because the old combo was in no way better than other choices.

Combo with speed, carrying , strength, and vision IMO was the best choice...EASILY.

Now combo sucks ass.

Originally posted by MRIGUY
Combo with speed, carrying , strength, and vision IMO was the best choice...EASILY.

Now combo sucks ass.

Think about this post.

Think really hard.

Originally posted by MRIGUY
I thought when i 1st saw this list that the HB combo choice had speed, carrying, strength, and vision as majors.

Now today i noticed that strength is now a minor and confidence is a major.

Can someone confirm or deny my suspicion?

If i am right then they really have screwed up the RB choices....Now elusive and returner are both better than combo or power which seems a bit silly.

There should be one good elusive choice and one good power choice instead of 2 good elusive choices and no good power choices.

The whole thing is kind of silly tbh and yes it does look to have been changed. I had them copied but not enough time to copy them all when the thread was started.

Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by MRIGUY

Combo with speed, carrying , strength, and vision IMO was the best choice...EASILY.

Now combo sucks ass.

Think about this post.

Think really hard.

so it goes from the best choice to the worse....makes no sense...while they are at it why don't they change combo LB since it is my favorite also.

Unbelievable....Catch said everything was set in stone....I guess not...

nerfed before it even began...record!

Originally posted by MRIGUY
so it goes from the best choice to the worse....makes no sense...while they are at it why don't they change combo LB since it is my favorite also.

Unbelievable....Catch said everything was set in stone....I guess not...
The idea is that there shouldn't be any one choice that is better than the others. They're supposed to be balanced.

Originally posted by Kayoh
Originally posted by MRIGUY

so it goes from the best choice to the worse....makes no sense...while they are at it why don't they change combo LB since it is my favorite also.

Unbelievable....Catch said everything was set in stone....I guess not...
The idea is that there shouldn't be any one choice that is better than the others. They're supposed to be balanced.

they are not balanced because now combo is the worse and returner is the best which makes no sense...

I agree that the old combo was too strong, and that the new combo sucks too much ass. Who would pick combo now?

Originally posted by jdbolick
I agree that the old combo was too strong, and that the new combo sucks too much ass. Who would pick combo now?

I was personally in the "just remove it" boat

Originally posted by MRIGUY
Originally posted by Kayoh

Originally posted by MRIGUY


so it goes from the best choice to the worse....makes no sense...while they are at it why don't they change combo LB since it is my favorite also.

Unbelievable....Catch said everything was set in stone....I guess not...
The idea is that there shouldn't be any one choice that is better than the others. They're supposed to be balanced.

they are not balanced because now combo is the worse and returner is the best which makes no sense...



Yea but they weren't balanced before either...so the point is moot.

yeah but now the best choice is returner for a RB...which is totally stupid....maybe they could give combo back strength and take carrying....this might level the playing field a little better...

Originally posted by Deathblade
I was personally in the "just remove it" boat
Probably a better idea than what it is now. Apparently there's a big emphasis on having all archetypes with the same number of majors, but there's no particular reason why they should. You can't replace Vision or Confidence with Strength or Agility because that would make it too appealing compared to the other choices, but what if strength became a fifth major? Then you end up with:

HB Combo
5'9" - 6'2", 200-230 Lbs
Major Carrying Confidence Speed Vision Strength (+.4)
Minor Agility Catching Stamina Jumping (+.25)
Bonus SA's - None
Penalty SA's - None

That way it's never going to be as fast as a true elusive or scat back, nor as good at breaking tackles as the power archetype, yet it truly would be a middle ground between the two.