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I'm laying down a challenge. I want to see someone's return man juke someone either in multiple links or more than once in a link because it's not happening to my guy despite 100% elusiveness, 4/1 capped vision, 82 agility, +10 Juke, and maxed "Clever Instincts" and "Return Man."

It seems like jukes/fakes are harder to pull off on ST's for some reason than on offensive downs. HB's do it easy. Why cant return men? Maybe it's just me, so someone show me a return man strutting their stuff.

Not sure if this is a juke really.......and it's not my guy but here's something I saw earlier today....


http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=915493&pbp_id=2931728

Awesome return. It's not a juke though, since it reads as two "missed tackles," but still awesome return regardless .

I'm wanting to see a return man get guys to fall down like HB's do as shown below: (all plays from this season)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1001076&pbp_id=2252187 (jukes SS and MLB)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1001076&pbp_id=2254093 (jukes LOLB and LDE at once, although still gets Tk'ed for a loss)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1001076&pbp_id=2256157 (jukes MLB for TD)

This is the closest I've seen from my players that are jukes. They don't exactly fall down but the defender gets shook.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1078313&pbp_id=5058022

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1078313&pbp_id=5061557

Here ya go.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1002278&pbp_id=362975

Originally posted by sooner_nation
Here ya go.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1002278&pbp_id=362975


Nah those aren't jukes, lol. They're missed diving tackles. I'm referring to plays, like these, where the defenders fall down :
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1001076&pbp_id=2252187 (jukes SS and MLB)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1001076&pbp_id=2254093 (jukes LOLB and LDE at once, although still gets Tk'ed for a loss)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1001076&pbp_id=2256157 (jukes MLB for TD)

Originally posted by Pook
This is the closest I've seen from my players that are jukes. They don't exactly fall down but the defender gets shook.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1078313&pbp_id=5058022

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1078313&pbp_id=5061557


Yea I'm thinking those might be more like extremely poor agility (makes sense, since it's the punter), so the punter freezes.

Originally posted by ReMeDy
Yea I'm thinking those might be more like extremely poor agility (makes sense, since it's the punter), so the punter freezes.

You're probably right, at my low level I CAN'T juke yet but those are the closest I've seen.

Use Spin instead of Juke.

you need the strength and carrying to make spin worth it

is it possible to have a diving tackle juked?

i know the missed tackles are now recorded as (missed tackle: x player), but there isnt anything to to read like this (juked: x player) so trying to prove when the jukes/head fakes occur is harder in general. i dont play hb's or fb's so ive never seen any text of jukes in a play-by-play or box score but maybe some of you have. i'm just curious, because quantifiable proof seems hard on the unrecorded efforts.

Originally posted by The Fromunda Cheeseheads
is it possible to have a diving tackle juked?

i know the missed tackles are now recorded as (missed tackle: x player), but there isnt anything to to read like this (juked: x player) so trying to prove when the jukes/head fakes occur is harder in general. i dont play hb's or fb's so ive never seen any text of jukes in a play-by-play or box score but maybe some of you have. i'm just curious, because quantifiable proof seems hard on the unrecorded efforts.
I always interpreted Jukes as "dots falling" unrelated to pancakes and without missed tackle descriptions. If I see a dot fall under his own power, I believe it's a juke. If someone has quotes though, preferably from Bort, let me know. Bonus points if he makes mention of Special Teams. The dot behavior of offensive downs versus Special Teams is radically different. You simply don't see dots falling down like this on Special Teams (this season):
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1001076&pbp_id=2252187

hey Mysterio, the argument is that CBs arent triggering it.