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Below is my post from the test server...Keep in mind, this Blking logic is only currently active on the test server.

Tested the blocking logic in the run game 3 times (4 really, but 1 was a dud because of using the PB on all pitches):
http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1609
http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1610
http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1612

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straight cover 1 434 D or straight cover 2 434 D

Just using the canned 434, cover 2 (or cover 1), default D, The C ends up doubling up on the DT instead of the NT, causing the FB to have to double/single the NT too much, instead of getting to the LBs/Safes. That allows the NT to explode a few too many runs, IMO, and more or less makes the Break Thru SA meaningless for them. It also results in the typically weaker DT getting his dot ass caked far too often. IMO, the C should be doubling up on the NT (or shooting out for the MLB, if the RG can handle the NT 1 on 1). That'd solve all those issues
http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1610&pbp_id=349228

As far as FB & TE blocking logic goes on outside runs HUGE improvement!!!! Not perfect every time, but soooooooooo much better soooooooo much more often than before!


General notes on a couple individual plays:
HB Draw (Shotgun) has never worked well and is even worse now. As is, the QB is tkled more often than the HB. The play needs to be speeded up

Pitch Weak (Strong I)
The RG's pull serves absolutely no purpose. in the play linked, the RG has 70 speed, 77 agility and may as well not be on the field. Aside from not coming close to getting to the edge, he appears lost as to what to do once he finally gets there. Maybe speed up his pull (if possible on that play) and have him shoot the gap between the LT & LG, looking for the 1st unblocked dot.
http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1611&pbp_id=349377

HB Sweep Weak (Weak I)
LG could use a slight speed boost on this play, also. Otherwise, he may as well just fire out and take the LOLB. As is, he just helps the LOT double on the DE, on the plays he's fast enough to get out there.
http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1612&pbp_id=349585

Conclusion:
Outside of the couple issues I mentioned, I like the run blking logic. The inside run game could use a small boost, but I strongly suspect that the C taking the NT instead of the DT would be enough to provide that. However, a real DC should test out run blking logic. Frankly, I'm not up on all the exploit blitzes and stuff. That said, take away the few issues above and I like it against a base 43 cover 2 & cover 1.
Edited by PP on Dec 14, 2009 13:16:09
 
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Nice work. Instead of just saying the C should double the NT. Why not make him block which ever way the run play is going. If the run is to the weak side the C should double the DT. If its a strong side run he should double the NT.


Also shouldn't the TE be sealing off the edge by blocking the LOLB not going for the FS?
http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1609&pbp_id=349030
Edited by Tigerbait0307 on Dec 14, 2009 15:24:30
Edited by Tigerbait0307 on Dec 14, 2009 15:22:10
 
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Originally posted by Tigerbait0307
Nice work. Instead of just saying the C should double the NT. Why not make him block which ever way the run play is going. If the run is to the weak side the C should double the DT. If its a strong side run he should double the NT.


Also shouldn't the TE be sealing off the edge by blocking the LOLB not going for the FS?
http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1609&pbp_id=349030


I could live with your suggestion quite easily. As a matter of fact, I really like it. It would there'd be some issues with it in some cases, but no more than with the C trying to get to an NT that's shifted way out.

Agree on the TE sealing example. As I wrote, not perfect every time. However, the really nice thing is that for every one example like you linked, there are now 5-10 where he does the right thing (as opposed to 5-10 wrong for every 1 right)...Sometimes it's go down field after the SS, others it's seal.
http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1612&pbp_id=349597
 
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Yeah I agree the blocking is much improved on pitch plays and screens for that matter. If a team ran pitch plays all day and blocked them perfect everytime I would be complaining about that.


 
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Originally posted by Tigerbait0307
Also shouldn't the TE be sealing off the edge by blocking the LOLB not going for the FS?
http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1609&pbp_id=349030


The FB was probably assigned for the LOLB...but then went ;psyduck;
 
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Originally posted by Tigerbait0307

Also shouldn't the TE be sealing off the edge by blocking the LOLB not going for the FS?
http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1609&pbp_id=349030


Yes, he should have. There is a SS/LOLB there too that should be blocked before the FS anyways. It seems like there is inherently something wrong with the vision/intelligence of the players. Like the HB in this play that PP posted: http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1611&pbp_id=349377, should have known better than to bubble the play out, but rather follow the LG through the hole that was made. There was a hole there, a big one too that the G would have made bigger after smasing the ROLB out of the play.

It seems that the vision of players isnt tied to an 'intelligence' factor, like they know that they should block the guy (like in the TE play), but rather the dots are going to a pre-destined zone that vision affects, but doesnt ultimately take them to where they should be going or making them do something that they should be doing.
 


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