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gjwhite66
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Agreed, the offense should always be changing. You need to take from each victory and loss what things may or may not work. Your playbook and AI at the end of the season should be vastly different from the beginning. Heck, you might even have multiple playbooks (AI's) for different teams.
 
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Although ANY system is basically a guess , it is cool that you took the time to investigate everyones team. I would like to have seen the toronto tigers ranked a bit higher, but the next few games will tell the tale for the tigers. Toughest part of the schedule coming up.
 
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So I wrote a ranking system based on (your wins + the number of wins by teams you've beaten) - (your losses + the number of losses by the teams that beat you) and ran it. I got some interesting results. I then went looking around the internet, and I found a GreaseMonkey script that does rankings of some sort (http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/51628). From the description, it sounds like it's doing some combination of the PF-PA thing I was doing and the point system I described. But when I run it, I get totally nutty results.

So here it is, for your viewing pleasure. Three different polls (as of week 5), all together in one table:

Rnk ... Off ... Def .. SoS .. Team ........................................ PF-PA (This Thread) ........... Wins + BeatenWins - Losses - LostToLosses
1 ........ 4 ...... 2 ...... 0.56 .. Need More Cowbell .............. Raccoon City S.T.A.R.S ....... Need More Cowbell
2 ........ 3 ...... 4 ...... 0.40 .. Appalachian Mountianeers .. Appalachian Mountianeers .. Raccoon City S.T.A.R.S
3 ........ 9 ...... 10 .... 0.56 .. Horn Lake Predators ............ Atlantis Wraith Worshipers .. Appalachian Mountianeers
4 ........ 6 ...... 7 ...... 0.24 .. Barney's Bullet ....................... Memorial Crusaders ............. toronto tigers
5 ........ 13 .... 11 .... 0.44 .. Olympus Legends ................ Barney's Bullet ....................... Barney's Bullet
6 ........ 7 ...... 5 ...... 0.28 .. toronto tigers .......................... Need More Cowbell .............. Olympus Legends
7 ........ 2 ...... 1 ...... 0.12 .. Atlantis Wraith Worshipers .. toronto tigers .......................... Atlantis Wraith Worshipers
8 ........ 8 ...... 9 ...... 0.64 .. Purple Plainsmen .................. Purple Plainsmen .................. Memorial Crusaders
9 ........ 21 .... 15 .... 0.48 .. Reagan Rattlers .................... End Times Patriot Saints ..... Purple Plainsmen
10 ...... 5 ...... 8 ...... 0.40 .. Memorial Crusaders ............. Horn Lake Predators ............ End Times Patriot Saints
11 ...... 1 ...... 3 ...... 0.52 .. Raccoon City S.T.A.R.S. ....... Olympus Legends ................ Horn Lake Predators
12 ...... 11 .... 6 ...... 0.32 .. End Times Patriot Saints ..... GLB Wrecking Crew ............. *pow*
13 ...... 14 .... 19 .... 0.52 .. New Orleans Patriots .......... *pow* ...................................... New Orleans Patriots
14 ...... 12 .... 13 .... 0.52 .. *pow* ...................................... Pee Wee Drops the Soap ... Reagan Rattlers
15 ...... 20 .... 14 .... 0.72 .. Sodom Devils ........................ Fort Lauderdale Kings ......... TEAM CLUTCH
16 ...... 10 .... 18 .... 0.64 .. GLB Wrecking Crew ............. New Orleans Patriots .......... GLB Wrecking Crew
17 ...... 16 .... 12 .... 0.56 .. Pee Wee Drops the Soap ... Sodom Devils ........................ lol raiders
18 ...... 15 .... 16 .... 0.32 .. Fort Lauderdale Kings ......... TEAM CLUTCH ..................... Fort Lauderdale Kings
19 ...... 24 .... 27 .... 0.56 .. Koigahama Cupids .............. Reagan Rattlers .................... Pee Wee Drops the Soap
20 ...... 17 .... 17 .... 0.48 .. TEAM CLUTCH ..................... lol raiders ............................... Sodom Devils
21 ...... 28 .... 26 .... 0.56 .. Weird Science ....................... Toledo Dragons .................... Viva La Revolucion
22 ...... 19 .... 22 .... 0.36 .. lol raiders ............................... Viva La Revolucion ............... Alaska Huskies
23 ...... 18 .... 25 .... 0.44 .. Viva La Revolucion ............... Alaska Huskies ..................... Toledo Dragons
24 ...... 26 .... 20 .... 0.60 .. Toledo Dragons .................... Multiple Scorgasms .............. Koigahama Cupids
25 ...... 23 .... 23 .... 0.64 .. Alaska Huskies ..................... Bartow Yellow Jackets ......... Weird Science
26 ...... 27 .... 21 .... 0.52 .. Bartow Yellow Jackets ......... Weird Science ....................... Bartow Yellow Jackets
27 ...... 31 .... 32 .... 0.72 .. compton vikings .................... Sydney Wildfire ...................... Multiple Scorgasms
28 ...... 22 .... 24 .... 0.52 .. Multiple Scorgasms .............. Koigahama Cupids .............. compton vikings
29 ...... 32 .... 28 .... 0.72 .. Illinois Bling ........................... Illinois Bling ........................... Illinois Bling
30 ...... 25 .... 30 .... 0.44 .. Sydney Wildfire ...................... Montgomery Breakers .......... Sydney Wildfire
31 ...... 29 .... 31 .... 0.52 .. Las Vegas Knights ............... Las Vegas Knights ............... Montgomery Breakers
32 ...... 30 .... 29 .... 0.68 .. Montgomery Breakers .......... compton vikings .................... Las Vegas Knights

(15,000 edits to try to get it to look right)
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Nice job, man.. Keep up the good work, I'm glad someone has stepped up to do this.. It's always a welcome feature to a League board..
 
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I like the other one personally. Easier to read. Also. Good Game Purple Plainsmen.
 
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P.S... The Streak is still alive
 
Gongadan
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Well, after More Cowbell beat the Mountianeers, the PF-PA method was still ranking the Mountianeers #2 and More Cowbell #5. I fiddled with the formula a little (increased the strength of schedule effect slightly), and now at least they're closer together. Unfortunately, now the Purple Plainsmen are ranked higher than AWW because AWW has had such a weak schedule--this is particularly a problem, because AWW just beat PP pretty convincingly.

Because I'm still dissatisfied with that, I went ahead and did all three polls again. But going forward, I'll probably drop all but the PF-PA, because frankly it's a little tedious trying to get them all up there. If you really like the one with SoS and whatnot in it, you can get the script yourself.

Congratulations, by the way to AWW and More Cowbell--big wins tonight. Also congratulations to the compton vikings. You've moved out of last place in all three polls with the big win tonight!

Rnk ... Off ... Def .. SoS .... Team ........................................ PF-PA (This Thread) ........... Wins + BeatenWins - Losses - LostToLosses
1 ........ 3 ...... 2 ...... 0.639 .. Need More Cowbell .............. Raccoon City S.T.A.R.S ....... Need More Cowbell
2 ........ 4 ...... 6 ...... 0.528 .. Appalachian Mountianeers .. Appalachian Mountianeers .. Raccoon City S.T.A.R.S
3 ........ 8 ...... 9 ...... 0.583 .. Horn Lake Predators ............ Need More Cowbell .............. Appalachian Mountianeers
4 ........ 12 .... 10 .... 0.500 .. Olympus Legends ................ Purple Plainsmen .................. Olympus Legends
5 ........ 2 ...... 1 ...... 0.222 .. Atlantis Wraith Worshipers .. Atlantis Wraith Worshipers .. toronto tigers
6 ........ 6 ...... 5 ...... 0.250 .. Barney's Bullet ....................... Memorial Crusaders ............. Barney's Bullet
7 ........ 7 ...... 4 ...... 0.278 .. toronto tigers .......................... Horn Lake Predators ............ Atlantis Wraith Worshipers
8 ........ 19 .... 14 .... 0.694 .. Sodom Devils ........................ Barney's Bullet ....................... Horn Lake Predators
9 ........ 14 .... 18 .... 0.472 .. New Orleans Patriots .......... toronto tigers .......................... Memorial Crusaders
10 ...... 5 ...... 8 ...... 0.306 .. Memorial Crusaders ............. End Times Patriot Saints ..... Purple Plainsmen
11 ...... 1 ...... 3 ...... 0.500 .. Raccoon City S.T.A.R.S. ....... GLB Wrecking Crew ............. New Orleans Patriots
12 ...... 9 ...... 12 .... 0.722 .. Purple Plainsmen .................. Olympus Legends ................ *pow*
13 ...... 21 .... 16 .... 0.444 .. Reagan Rattlers .................... Pee Wee Drops the Soap ... End Times Patriot Saints
14 ...... 13 .... 7 ...... 0.389 .. End Times Patriot Saints ..... *pow* ...................................... Pee Wee Drops the Soap
15 ...... 11 .... 13 .... 0.417 .. *pow* ...................................... Sodom Devils ........................ TEAM CLUTCH
16 ...... 15 .... 11 .... 0.556 .. Pee Wee Drops the Soap ... New Orleans Patriots .......... GLB Wrecking Crew
17 ...... 10 .... 15 .... 0.528 .. GLB Wrecking Crew ............. TEAM CLUTCH ..................... Sodom Devils
18 ...... 27 .... 30 .... 0.583 .. Koigahama Cupids .............. Fort Lauderdale Kings ......... Reagan Rattlers
19 ...... 17 .... 17 .... 0.556 .. TEAM CLUTCH ..................... Reagan Rattlers .................... Fort Lauderdale Kings
20 ...... 16 .... 19 .... 0.389 .. Fort Lauderdale Kings ......... Multiple Scorgasms .............. lol raiders
21 ...... 30 .... 26 .... 0.583 .. Weird Science ....................... Bartow Yellow Jackets ......... Viva La Revolucion
22 ...... 23 .... 20 .... 0.472 .. Bartow Yellow Jackets ......... Alaska Huskies ..................... Bartow Yellow Jackets
23 ...... 22 .... 32 .... 0.667 .. compton vikings .................... lol raiders ............................... compton vikings
24 ...... 18 .... 25 .... 0.361 .. Viva La Revolucion ............... Viva La Revolucion ............... Koigahama Cupids
25 ...... 20 .... 22 .... 0.389 .. lol raiders ............................... Toledo Dragons .................... Multiple Scorgasms
26 ...... 24 .... 23 .... 0.583 .. Multiple Scorgasms .............. Weird Science ....................... Weird Science
27 ...... 28 .... 21 .... 0.528 .. Toledo Dragons .................... Illinois Bling ........................... Alaska Huskies
28 ...... 29 .... 27 .... 0.611 .. Illinois Bling ........................... compton vikings .................... Toledo Dragons
29 ...... 25 .... 24 .... 0.556 .. Alaska Huskies ..................... Montgomery Breakers .......... Montgomery Breakers
30 ...... 26 .... 28 .... 0.444 .. Sydney Wildfire ...................... Koigahama Cupids .............. Sydney Wildfire
31 ...... 31 .... 31 .... 0.583 .. Las Vegas Knights ............... Sydney Wildfire ...................... Illinois Bling
32 ...... 32 .... 29 .... 0.667 .. Montgomery Breakers .......... Las Vegas Knights ............... Las Vegas Knights
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Edited by Gongadan on Oct 24, 2009 18:31:12
 
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Hey, good game Cowbells, enjoy the win.. Damn, I hate Rushing QB's...
 
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great game tonight Mountaineers...We were looking forward to playing a quality team and we're thankful to come out with a victory. I have a feeling we might see each other later in the season though. Good luck the rest of the way
 
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Gongadan, you are the man. I tried to do a ranking using your Wins/Loss points system, and holy hell did that take forever. I actually ended up just stopping after 10 teams and went back to my own type of ranking. I used to do the scripts, but as you've noticed, it will give you some funky outputs, mainly due to strength of schedule. But yeah, your hard work is greatly appreciated.

GG Appalachian, hopefully we do get a chance to meet again
 
Gongadan
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Yeah, I've got it all in a huge ugly multi-page spreadsheet. And it's basically impossible to change the basic structure of the scoring at this point, because if I add or remove columns it gets all screwy because of some absolute referencing I did for convenience somewhere along the way.

Anyway, I just realized that someone who doesn't understand my twisted mind might not realize that the first five columns (rank, Off, Def, SoS, and the first team name) are all a part of one ranking system, but the last two columns are unrelated to that information; they're part of different ranking systems altogether.

But anyway, I'm probably only going to do the PF-PA system from here on out. And it's not just because that's the one my team is at the top of!

If you're interested, I could either explain how to set up the points ranking system in a spreadsheet (using sums, ifs, and vlookups), or just email a copy of mine to you. Or maybe I'll give this spreadsheet the finger and just write a program to do it. Or, you know, steal that guy's script and rewrite it to do what I want it to do instead of what he did with it.
 
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More Cowbell! Feel free to explore the studio space.

The compton vikings are now on a two game winning streak! WTG GUYS! Illinois Bling also worked their way out of the ohfer category today.

Without further delay... (by the PF-PA method)

1.. Raccoon City S.T.A.R.S
2.. Need More Cowbell
3.. Appalachian Mountianeers
4.. Atlantis Wraith Worshipers
5.. Purple Plainsmen
6.. Horn Lake Predators
7.. Memorial Crusaders
8.. Barney's Bullet
9.. toronto tigers
10 End Times Patriot Saints
11 Olympus Legends
12 *pow*
13 GLB Wrecking Crew
14 Pee Wee Drops the Soap
15 New Orleans Patriots
16 Sodom Devils
17 TEAM CLUTCH
18 Fort Lauderdale Kings
19 Reagan Rattlers
20 Multiple Scorgasms
21 Toledo Dragons
22 Alaska Huskies
23 Viva La Revolucion
24 Bartow Yellow Jackets
25 Illinois Bling
26 lol raiders
27 Weird Science
28 compton vikings
29 Koigahama Cupids
30 Montgomery Breakers
31 Las Vegas Knights
32 Sydney Wildfire


 
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Gold Records baby!
 
shadowmane
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Um... how the hell are the Purple Plainsmen ranked above Barney's Bullet? We beat them.
 
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Crusaders have beaten the Plainsmen as well. Rankings fail.
 
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