Warrior General Games

Strength 79.4
Blocking 91.4
Speed 50.09
Agility 67.88
Stamina 46.41
Vision 52.4
Confidence 41.4

Pass Blocking
7,2,3,4,11

Run Blocking
2,1,0,0,0

VA
Great Blocker 10, Pass Blocker 11


Shucks -- I meant for this to be in the "Rate my O-Lineman" thread -- sorry.

11 protect at lvl 43?

Thats like evil.

My LOT has 7 in it at level 37. And 0 points spent on it.

It's evil because it means he wasted a lot of better points. Your strength and blocking should be switched, then both 5 higher, agility 10 higher and speed 10 higher, minimum. Pretty poor overall

Originally posted by Octowned
... Your strength and blocking should be switched...

Do that and you need to retire for sure.

Should strength and blocking be equal?

I think strength is far more important than blocking. 80 strength at LOT you will get killed

Originally posted by Octowned
I think strength is far more important than blocking. 80 strength at LOT you will get killed

wrong again

Damn Octowned... so many guys are looking up to you as THE o-line build guru. Don't drop all these things you can't back up.

Just everything I've read/experienced has led me to believe strength > blocking across the entire o-line. I have never had issues so I've never had a reason to think otherwise. In fact, our o-line is very very freaking good We run 3 pieces str 1 piece blocking on the weak side, and everybody else is 4 pieces strength.

check the DE recruiting threads for this level up to 45, 90% of DE's at this level have less than 68 str, and i'm assuming most of the ones that do will end up at LDE. Even if you do have less, foundation can make up for it a bit i'd imagine.

Originally posted by Octowned
Just everything I've read/experienced has led me to believe strength > blocking across the entire o-line. I have never had issues so I've never had a reason to think otherwise. In fact, our o-line is very very freaking good We run 3 pieces str 1 piece blocking on the weak side, and everybody else is 4 pieces strength.

Now that's a totally different opinion.

Strength or blocking? Most say strength (opinion)
OTs with 80 strength at lv. 43 getting killed? only if they got insufficient blocking

Strength-builds need to move around a lot and re-engage the DE constantly - while preventing to get reverse-pancaked on pass plays (on runs, they end up either pancaking or falling down cut blocking). So it's totally right to consider 80 strength way too low for a strength build.

But there's another way to build offensive lineman. Way less moving and way less failure (way less of those fancy pancakes too)...



b.t.w.: the opening post guy has a problem anyway - for his combined strength + blocking is 170, but should be around 180 by now.

Well I don't take his level into account. If he has 80 strength now, natural gains at OT suck so bad he's never going to get much higher anyway. With what, two pieces in strength and two in blocking (and custom) it looks like, he'll get +4 more strength from equipment, and a few measly gains. 85-86 strength at level 60? Good luck getting him in a pro league... Even if his blocking will be 95 or so then, I just wouldn't trust that player.

I probably wouldn't trust 95 strength / 85 blocking, either, though... Like you said he's just too low in the main categories.

I'd build a LOT to be like 105 str 95 blk 80 agi probably.

If you'd like to consider a non str focused build, watch http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1115334 for the next few games and see how he does. He is rolling with 69/87/86/51 str/blk/agi/spd, and I plan on continuing with this same idea throughout his career. So far, he has yet to give up a sack to a DE in his entire career, including scrimmages. This season will be his first real test however, as he is out leveled by a bit. (see the 2nd scrim to see how he handles a higher level DE with higher str than him http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=363949 )

I'm like Oct, I know that you need a certain amount of strength (90ish scrapes by) with blocking also in that range.

RAPB may be right, you may be able to go with 75 strength and 105 blocking and do better than 90/90, but I don't know, I've never seen it done.

My Level 65 LOT(on a damn good pro team) has 81 strength, 93 Blocking, and 95 agility with 0 lvl 64 upgrades. He rarely gives up a sack or a hurry. If he does it seems like another guy on the o-line is getting dominated most of the game. Hell my OT has recognized a LG getting dominated so he helps against the DT and the RE goes free fairly quickly. That happened the last time I can remember him giving up a sack, which was a while ago.

I also know of a high level LOT with 71 strength and he does great against the pass and surprisingly solid against the run. Most RDE's don't have over 75 strength. Now with slow building you likely should have to up that strength a bit more, but I still think strength is the 3rd best attribute for a LOT.

According to what you guys are saying in this thread there are a few ways to make a great LOT, but until there are many more strength DE's out there I'm sticking with my way if I build a new LOT.