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Sorry but no way Ernham should have gotten the Defense MVP and no way Chazno should have been beaten on the last day when he had a better game against a better team than Lucifer did against a shit team. Shocked Swifty didnt somehow fuck up and lose the ST MVP.

McFadden should have won the MVP for offense, thats who he tried to pass but shouldnt have been able to, not the 3rd place guy jumping them both. Tupac maybe for Defense but I think Def TDs should count more and Marcus Mcneil may have been one of the better corners this season and Samari with 5 TDs only one against a team gutting.
Edited by head1 on Jul 21, 2009 07:45:49
 
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Tupac should have won the MVP on defense...no gutted teams, no blowouts, sick gamechangeing stats. And none of his FF came on special teams either...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=611320

this is what and MVP season should look like, consistent, game changing plays...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=611320

 
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I'm not sure how Lucifer jumped Chazno when he has a lesser game against a lesser team. I guess we were punished because we beat them by too much. That's what makes this MVP thing so silly. If you beat a good team by a ton, it doesn't matter. If you beat a shit team by a little bit, then you get a lot of credit.
 
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Axl should have gotten the ST MVP in Lion, but what you gonna do against a team that has 100 kick returns every game...
 
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Originally posted by jsully75
Tupac should have won the MVP on defense...no gutted teams, no blowouts, sick gamechangeing stats. And none of his FF came on special teams either...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=611320

this is what and MVP season should look like, consistent, game changing plays...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=611320



Yea I do think Tupac had a great season but I think there is too much emphasis on some things and not so much on some of the others. Tupac had 11 FF, great, compare that to 8 ints by Samari. How many of Tupacs FF went for a TD is what I am looking at tbh. Not taking away from him, 18 sacks is a shit ton and what seperates him from Samari of course but If you look at who did what against "good" teams and put things in perspective I do think Tupac should have won and honestly Samari should have been second, from there who else has had seasons like they have without the inflated shit team games?

Ernham shouldnt be even in the top 10. 1 sack outside of game 1. 7 FF in what can be considered good games. 140 tackles is impressive but 18 missed tackles is more impressive.....Wow.

 
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Originally posted by Minaras
Axl should have gotten the ST MVP in Lion, but what you gonna do against a team that has 100 kick returns every game...


holy hell 45.4 KR average is unreal, thats what I look at tbh not really the total yards
 
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Axl should have gotten the ST MVP in Lion, but what you gonna do against a team that has 100 kick returns every game...


holy hell 45.4 KR average is unreal, thats what I look at tbh not really the total yards


Yea, and he didn't get it all in the cupcake games either. Scored 2 kick return TD's against Kilwa f.ex.

Still alot of work for Bort on the MVP stuff no doubt, but i fear it will never be really good as that would require too much individual work for the leagues. A bit better general code is the best we can hope for i reckon
 
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Originally posted by Minaras
Axl should have gotten the ST MVP in Lion, but what you gonna do against a team that has 100 kick returns every game...


I second that, he killed us
 
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I don't claim to know how the MVP works. And as far as stats go Chazno clearly had more TD's and more Yards. But I am sure Chazno was penalized for all the blow out games Dakar was in. Dakar clearly outleveled the league by far at just about every position. I don't know how much you guys game plan. But with the levels you have on everyone, there were probably only a few games that you had to scout and game plan. McFadden had 1/3 of his Rushing TD's against the Misfits. Lucifer only had 138 yards and 5 TD's against the Misfits. Chazno had 181 yards and 5 TD's. As far as the last game, both Diamond Cutters were not very good teams. When they played each other the final score was 36-23. So I don't think that Gambia was a whole lot better than Damascan.

I don't know how Lucifer got the MVP. Maybe if Bort explained in more detail how the MVP works we would know. But as usual, Bort leaves us in the dark to figure it all out for ourselves.
 
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Originally posted by Skullkrusher
I don't claim to know how the MVP works. And as far as stats go Chazno clearly had more TD's and more Yards. But I am sure Chazno was penalized for all the blow out games Dakar was in. Dakar clearly outleveled the league by far at just about every position. I don't know how much you guys game plan. But with the levels you have on everyone, there were probably only a few games that you had to scout and game plan. McFadden had 1/3 of his Rushing TD's against the Misfits. Lucifer only had 138 yards and 5 TD's against the Misfits. Chazno had 181 yards and 5 TD's. As far as the last game, both Diamond Cutters were not very good teams. When they played each other the final score was 36-23. So I don't think that Gambia was a whole lot better than Damascan.

I don't know how Lucifer got the MVP. Maybe if Bort explained in more detail how the MVP works we would know. But as usual, Bort leaves us in the dark to figure it all out for ourselves.


Yea, Lucifer isnt really my target of frustration, it doesnt make sense going into the last game he was 3rd and faced a worse team than Chazno and they had very similar games and he jumped Chazno and Mcfadden. 1 TD and 50 yards that much of a difference? I just really quiestion the whole damn system tbh. It doesnt matter that I had guys involved I questioned it last season as well, I think its bogus and as usual not very well thought out by the mighty Bort. I do think Mcfadden shoulda been then O MVP though from what I think a Rb is / does.

Ernham is the clear fuck up here.
 
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Originally posted by Skullkrusher
Dakar clearly outleveled the league by far at just about every position. I don't know how much you guys game plan. But with the levels you have on everyone, there were probably only a few games that you had to scout and game plan.



Average starters right now with a few examples.

Ghana 59.36
Dakar 58.64
DDC 56.46
Boston and BDM dead even at 55.77


Not as "clearly" as you would think.
Edited by head1 on Jul 21, 2009 13:25:39
 
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Originally posted by head1
Originally posted by Skullkrusher

Dakar clearly outleveled the league by far at just about every position. I don't know how much you guys game plan. But with the levels you have on everyone, there were probably only a few games that you had to scout and game plan.



Average starters right now with a few examples.

Ghana 59.36
Dakar 58.64
DDC 56.46
Boston and BDM dead even at 55.77


Not as "clearly" as you would think.


Include backups...top playoff teams

Team Offense Defense (Starters/Backups)

Dakar 59/53 59/53
EGE 56/48 58/50
Dogs 55/50 57/51
CDC 58/50 56/51

So about 3 levels average on offense and 2 on defense...I would say yes, you do clearly outlevel the other top teams in the league.
 
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Dogs don't have 1 single season 1 player and only 13 season 2 players....(created before day 40 of season 2)
 
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Originally posted by jsully75
Originally posted by head1

Originally posted by Skullkrusher


Dakar clearly outleveled the league by far at just about every position. I don't know how much you guys game plan. But with the levels you have on everyone, there were probably only a few games that you had to scout and game plan.



Average starters right now with a few examples.

Ghana 59.36
Dakar 58.64
DDC 56.46
Boston and BDM dead even at 55.77


Not as "clearly" as you would think.


Include backups...top playoff teams

Team Offense Defense (Starters/Backups)

Dakar 59/53 59/53
EGE 56/48 58/50
Dogs 55/50 57/51
CDC 58/50 56/51

So about 3 levels average on offense and 2 on defense...I would say yes, you do clearly outlevel the other top teams in the league.


3 levels, wow...
 
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Originally posted by head1
Originally posted by jsully75

Originally posted by head1


Originally posted by Skullkrusher



Dakar clearly outleveled the league by far at just about every position. I don't know how much you guys game plan. But with the levels you have on everyone, there were probably only a few games that you had to scout and game plan.



Average starters right now with a few examples.

Ghana 59.36
Dakar 58.64
DDC 56.46
Boston and BDM dead even at 55.77


Not as "clearly" as you would think.


Include backups...top playoff teams

Team Offense Defense (Starters/Backups)

Dakar 59/53 59/53
EGE 56/48 58/50
Dogs 55/50 57/51
CDC 58/50 56/51

So about 3 levels average on offense and 2 on defense...I would say yes, you do clearly outlevel the other top teams in the league.


3 levels, wow...



It is clear, is it not?
 
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