Any have any opinions on who won. Can't really argue with Kurt winning defensive or Sion on special teams. I think the Silver Surfer winning is kind of a joke. Not that he didn't have a good season, but there were plenty of players in Lion who had better ones (more yards, TDs etc.). Personally I think Max Power should have got it.
Fuzzballx
offline
offline
Apparently the MVP is f*****d for rushers and skewed towards something completely incomprehensible except to the mind of the designer, and mind which is CLEARLY insane.
Significantly higher total combined yardage (pass and rush), significantly highest total average yards per play, significantly higher TD total, and gets beat for MVP by someone who did HALF as well in totals as he did?
That's the story of my HB Wlly this season in elephant.
Gold trphies he got are nice....but don't come with a game improving endorsement like the broken MVP award.
Put 8 season of effort into a gold trophy winner so you too can get beat out for MVP endorsements by someone half your performance level! whoohaw!
More reason to NOT put more money into this game.
Significantly higher total combined yardage (pass and rush), significantly highest total average yards per play, significantly higher TD total, and gets beat for MVP by someone who did HALF as well in totals as he did?
That's the story of my HB Wlly this season in elephant.
Gold trphies he got are nice....but don't come with a game improving endorsement like the broken MVP award.
Put 8 season of effort into a gold trophy winner so you too can get beat out for MVP endorsements by someone half your performance level! whoohaw!
More reason to NOT put more money into this game.
Edited by Fuzzballx on Jun 4, 2009 13:12:43
Edited by Fuzzballx on Jun 4, 2009 13:11:31
Fuzzballx
offline
offline
Also, special teams.
What the HELL? I didn't pay attention in the regular season, but dude. In Elephant Xing Pow ended up with gold FGs and silver PATs.
But there isn't even a K or P on the MVP list for special teams....
Instead the MVP is some deutsche belonging to a limpbrick team that just simply returned kicks all season long so he has 6000 plus KR yards without a single KR point scored to show for it .... valuable my ARSE! More like LEAST VALUABLE!
What the HELL? I didn't pay attention in the regular season, but dude. In Elephant Xing Pow ended up with gold FGs and silver PATs.
But there isn't even a K or P on the MVP list for special teams....
Instead the MVP is some deutsche belonging to a limpbrick team that just simply returned kicks all season long so he has 6000 plus KR yards without a single KR point scored to show for it .... valuable my ARSE! More like LEAST VALUABLE!
jdellis45
offline
offline
I believe competition has an effect on mvp. Your RB had some big games but too bad those were in blowouts. When it was a much closer game he was held to 150 or less, mostly under 100 though from what I can see.
Fuzzballx
offline
offline
Originally posted by jdellis45
I believe competition has an effect on mvp. Your RB had some big games but too bad those were in blowouts. When it was a much closer game he was held to 150 or less, mostly under 100 though from what I can see.
You must be unbelievably short sighted.
These are by conference. WE PLAYED THE SAME TEAMS AND WE'RE ALMOST THE SAME LEVEL OF HB!
Get real. Willy blowing out the competition when the other didn't so much is exactly why Willy was the more valuable player....the other dude wasn't as able and had consistently fewer yards and TDs VS THE EXACT SAME TEAMS.
That was an unbelievably fallacious argument.
You are seriously saying that you believe campbell deserved the trophy because he did NOT perform as well against the following team as Willy (for example)
7 NEW ANG W16-43 8 90.0 11.3 1 7 92.0 13.1 14.3 1 1 0
13 RUN ANG W7-139 28 517.0 18.5 10 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0
In terms of % of yards moved by the team and in terms of % of points scored by the team, Willy scored higher % of both in that game than Campbell and scored a far far far higher total %.
Now seriously, which player was obvioulsy more valuable?
What the F***, dude. You're saying a worse RB should get the trophy because he wasn't as good against the EXACT SAME COMPETITION!
That example is just taken from RRR's biggest blowout of the season i believe, since you figure for some reason a blowout = a negative for being MVP.
I believe competition has an effect on mvp. Your RB had some big games but too bad those were in blowouts. When it was a much closer game he was held to 150 or less, mostly under 100 though from what I can see.
You must be unbelievably short sighted.
These are by conference. WE PLAYED THE SAME TEAMS AND WE'RE ALMOST THE SAME LEVEL OF HB!
Get real. Willy blowing out the competition when the other didn't so much is exactly why Willy was the more valuable player....the other dude wasn't as able and had consistently fewer yards and TDs VS THE EXACT SAME TEAMS.
That was an unbelievably fallacious argument.
You are seriously saying that you believe campbell deserved the trophy because he did NOT perform as well against the following team as Willy (for example)
7 NEW ANG W16-43 8 90.0 11.3 1 7 92.0 13.1 14.3 1 1 0
13 RUN ANG W7-139 28 517.0 18.5 10 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0
In terms of % of yards moved by the team and in terms of % of points scored by the team, Willy scored higher % of both in that game than Campbell and scored a far far far higher total %.
Now seriously, which player was obvioulsy more valuable?
What the F***, dude. You're saying a worse RB should get the trophy because he wasn't as good against the EXACT SAME COMPETITION!
That example is just taken from RRR's biggest blowout of the season i believe, since you figure for some reason a blowout = a negative for being MVP.
Edited by Fuzzballx on Jun 4, 2009 15:07:26
Edited by Fuzzballx on Jun 4, 2009 15:06:19
Edited by Fuzzballx on Jun 4, 2009 14:59:12
jdellis45
offline
offline
Originally posted by Fuzzballx
Originally posted by jdellis45
I believe competition has an effect on mvp. Your RB had some big games but too bad those were in blowouts. When it was a much closer game he was held to 150 or less, mostly under 100 though from what I can see.
You must be unbelievably short sighted.
These are by conference. WE PLAYED THE SAME TEAMS AND WE'RE ALMOST THE SAME LEVEL OF HB!
Get real. Willy blowing out the competition when the other didn't so much is exactly why Willy was the more valuable player....the other dude wasn't as able and had consistently fewer yards and TDs VS THE EXACT SAME TEAMS.
That was an unbelievably fallacious argument.
You are seriously saying that you believe campbell deserved the trophy because he did NOT perform as well against the following team as Willy (for example)
7 NEW ANG W16-43 8 90.0 11.3 1 7 92.0 13.1 14.3 1 1 0
13 RUN ANG W7-139 28 517.0 18.5 10 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0
In terms of % of yards moved by the team and in terms of % of points scored by the team, Willy scored higher % of both in that game than Campbell and scored a far far far higher total %.
Now seriously, which player was obvioulsy more valuable?
What the F***, dude. You're saying a worse RB should get the trophy because he wasn't as good against the EXACT SAME COMPETITION!
That example is just taken from RRR's biggest blowout of the season i believe, since you figure for some reason a blowout = a negative for being MVP.
No what I see is 4 games:
Week 3 426.0 yards 9 TD
Week 10 332.0 yards 9 TD
Week 13 517.0 yards 10 TD
Week 14 374.0 yards 12 TD
Grand Total(4 weeks) 1649.0 yards 40 TD
yeah enjoy 2nd place.
Originally posted by jdellis45
I believe competition has an effect on mvp. Your RB had some big games but too bad those were in blowouts. When it was a much closer game he was held to 150 or less, mostly under 100 though from what I can see.
You must be unbelievably short sighted.
These are by conference. WE PLAYED THE SAME TEAMS AND WE'RE ALMOST THE SAME LEVEL OF HB!
Get real. Willy blowing out the competition when the other didn't so much is exactly why Willy was the more valuable player....the other dude wasn't as able and had consistently fewer yards and TDs VS THE EXACT SAME TEAMS.
That was an unbelievably fallacious argument.
You are seriously saying that you believe campbell deserved the trophy because he did NOT perform as well against the following team as Willy (for example)
7 NEW ANG W16-43 8 90.0 11.3 1 7 92.0 13.1 14.3 1 1 0
13 RUN ANG W7-139 28 517.0 18.5 10 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0
In terms of % of yards moved by the team and in terms of % of points scored by the team, Willy scored higher % of both in that game than Campbell and scored a far far far higher total %.
Now seriously, which player was obvioulsy more valuable?
What the F***, dude. You're saying a worse RB should get the trophy because he wasn't as good against the EXACT SAME COMPETITION!
That example is just taken from RRR's biggest blowout of the season i believe, since you figure for some reason a blowout = a negative for being MVP.
No what I see is 4 games:
Week 3 426.0 yards 9 TD
Week 10 332.0 yards 9 TD
Week 13 517.0 yards 10 TD
Week 14 374.0 yards 12 TD
Grand Total(4 weeks) 1649.0 yards 40 TD
yeah enjoy 2nd place.
ColaCock
offline
offline
Originally posted by Fuzzballx
Originally posted by jdellis45
I believe competition has an effect on mvp. Your RB had some big games but too bad those were in blowouts. When it was a much closer game he was held to 150 or less, mostly under 100 though from what I can see.
You must be unbelievably short sighted.
These are by conference. WE PLAYED THE SAME TEAMS AND WE'RE ALMOST THE SAME LEVEL OF HB!
Get real.
That was an unbelievably fallacious argument.
What the F***, dude. You're saying a worse RB should get the trophy because he wasn't as good against the EXACT SAME COMPETITION!
Dude, chill out...you act like this is the first time something didn't make sense in this game.
Originally posted by jdellis45
I believe competition has an effect on mvp. Your RB had some big games but too bad those were in blowouts. When it was a much closer game he was held to 150 or less, mostly under 100 though from what I can see.
You must be unbelievably short sighted.
These are by conference. WE PLAYED THE SAME TEAMS AND WE'RE ALMOST THE SAME LEVEL OF HB!
Get real.
That was an unbelievably fallacious argument.
What the F***, dude. You're saying a worse RB should get the trophy because he wasn't as good against the EXACT SAME COMPETITION!
Dude, chill out...you act like this is the first time something didn't make sense in this game.
KevinM
offline
offline
The MVP tallies are heavily weighted toward performance in games that aren't blowouts.
KevinM
offline
offline
As you can see, Willie did not exactly blow up the better teams he played. 151 carries, 555 yards, 5 total TDs. So yeah, he's not the MVP.
Team G W-L Rush Yds Avg TD Rec Yds Avg YAC TD Fumb FumbL
Scrim 7 2-5 77 512 6.6 5 10 116 11.6 9.0 1 2 1
Seas 16 14-2 365 3560 9.8 66 14 153 10.9 11.5 2 2 1
Post 3 3-0 57 385 6.7 6 9 96 10.7 6.5 2 1 1
Diff <55 7 5-2 151 555 3.7 5 9 52 5.8 6.4 0 1 1
Diff >55 9 9-0 214 3005 14.0 61 5 101 20.1 20.8 2 1 0
Team G W-L Rush Yds Avg TD Rec Yds Avg YAC TD Fumb FumbL
Scrim 7 2-5 77 512 6.6 5 10 116 11.6 9.0 1 2 1
Seas 16 14-2 365 3560 9.8 66 14 153 10.9 11.5 2 2 1
Post 3 3-0 57 385 6.7 6 9 96 10.7 6.5 2 1 1
Diff <55 7 5-2 151 555 3.7 5 9 52 5.8 6.4 0 1 1
Diff >55 9 9-0 214 3005 14.0 61 5 101 20.1 20.8 2 1 0
Edited by KevinM on Jun 4, 2009 15:41:24
Edited by KevinM on Jun 4, 2009 15:40:41
Edited by KevinM on Jun 4, 2009 15:40:30
HANDSaLIVE
offline
offline
It's pretty simple. Your RB was one of two level 51's on the squad. My RB was the only one for most of the season. He also had over 100catches and was top 5 in almost every major offensive category. If I didn't have Campbell on the team the Kingsmen wouldn't have won as many games. You can't say the same for your guy.
voltageaav
offline
offline
But yeah, the MVP does seem screwed. In USA AAA1, my DT was 3rd in sacks and force fumbles both, but his confrence D rank is 35th. Another DT on the same team with lower numbers in every category was 7th in the MVP race and 1st amung all DTs. I'm not going to complain about it, but it's definitely screwed up.
Edited by voltageaav on Jun 8, 2009 04:51:49
beavrbelievr
offline
offline
Who F ing cares if you get an MVP endorsement. Shit its fake money! You cant even buy a loaf of bread with it.
USMC5813
offline
offline
Originally posted by beavrbelievr
Who F ing cares if you get an MVP endorsement. Shit its fake money! You cant even buy a loaf of bread with it.
LMFAO
Who F ing cares if you get an MVP endorsement. Shit its fake money! You cant even buy a loaf of bread with it.
LMFAO
voltageaav
offline
offline
Originally posted by beavrbelievr
Who F ing cares if you get an MVP endorsement. Shit its fake money! You cant even buy a loaf of bread with it.
You get the cool trophy thingy and a nice piece of custom equipment.
Who F ing cares if you get an MVP endorsement. Shit its fake money! You cant even buy a loaf of bread with it.
You get the cool trophy thingy and a nice piece of custom equipment.
ssupermans
offline
offline
Originally posted by beavrbelievr
Who F ing cares if you get an MVP endorsement. Shit its fake money! You cant even buy a loaf of bread with it.
This
haven't heard anything all season from ya and then we get this LMFAO
Who F ing cares if you get an MVP endorsement. Shit its fake money! You cant even buy a loaf of bread with it.
This
haven't heard anything all season from ya and then we get this LMFAO
You are not logged in. Please log in if you want to post a reply.
