Warrior General Games

is it just the SAs or is there more to it ?

also any recommendations on the VAs? seems the useful ones are pass blocker and maybe showboat blocker?

Generally the RG is the strongest and fastest since he pulls the most. The LG is usually built for pass blocking. This may change in the future but this is a basic rule of thumb. Not all OCs stick to this but its fairly common.

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Originally posted by Octowned
To me, the main difference between LG and RG are...

LG: cap conf earlier, do 68 agi, 48 spd. split equip, or 3 pieces strength and use +0.5% on blk
RG: 60 agi / 60 spd is fine, and can wait on confidence. all equip strength

The RG wants high everything and balanced, and fast!! Don't worry about your pass protection really, you can handle a NT and with 60 vis / agi / spd you can handle any blitz too.

wait so a LG should have around 50 speed at first? wouldnt they get beat by a speedy DT 1 on 1 ?

They move a small distance usually so Agi is more important than Speed as it's the initial acceleration that counts.

Originally posted by mandyross
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Originally posted by Octowned

To me, the main difference between LG and RG are...

LG: cap conf earlier, do 68 agi, 48 spd. split equip, or 3 pieces strength and use +0.5% on blk
RG: 60 agi / 60 spd is fine, and can wait on confidence. all equip strength

The RG wants high everything and balanced, and fast!! Don't worry about your pass protection really, you can handle a NT and with 60 vis / agi / spd you can handle any blitz too.


Yeah I'll stand by that, still. You want a LG who is strong because agility DTs will still have 80+ strength. Combine that with their 100+ agility and you'll get reverse pancaked without strength at LG.

The biggest difference to me is that the LG *needs* 68 agility, where I'm actually not even considering it for my RG.

If you want to discuss piece by piece..

strength: 73 for RG, 68 for LG
blocking: 68 for both
agility: 68 for LG, 60 for RG
speed: 60/68 for RG, possibly 60 for LG but not a priority
vision: 60 for RG, 48 for LG
confidence: early 48 for LG (will gain toward 60), late 48 for RG (will stick in low 50s)
stamina: not a difference
SAs: LG will want foundation, saw good results with this before. RG will want run block and get low. I wouldn't do hands, because you aren't consistently wearing down the same defender all game.
VAs: LG should do pass blocker first, RG should just do +0.5% blocking first as it impacts the run which is way more important. Then switch and do the others after that
Equip: 100% str for RG. Move a piece (or two?) to blocking for a LG.


Obviously a lot could be geared differently toward your team's running philosophy. I'm building my RG to be like 105 strength, 85 blocking, 70 speed, 60 agility, 60 vision, 50 confidence, 40 stamina, 14 get low

Originally posted by phreek
wait so a LG should have around 50 speed at first? wouldnt they get beat by a speedy DT 1 on 1 ?

Speed for DTs is to turn their hurries into sacks. Good agility based DTs get hurries, and a LOT of them. But no sacks. Speed DTs get sacks, but they don't get the pressure BECAUSE of the speed. They turn hurries into sacks with speed.

If your LG can handle the DT with high agility and blocking, the DT wont even use his speed.




That is of course just how I view it. You can do 60 speed for the LG, sure, but I just don't ever see him moving much at all. The main issue is to pump that agility ASAP.

Originally posted by Octowned
Originally posted by mandyross

This guy usually gives the best advice:

Originally posted by Octowned


To me, the main difference between LG and RG are...

LG: cap conf earlier, do 68 agi, 48 spd. split equip, or 3 pieces strength and use +0.5% on blk
RG: 60 agi / 60 spd is fine, and can wait on confidence. all equip strength

The RG wants high everything and balanced, and fast!! Don't worry about your pass protection really, you can handle a NT and with 60 vis / agi / spd you can handle any blitz too.


Yeah I'll stand by that, still. You want a LG who is strong because agility DTs will still have 80+ strength. Combine that with their 100+ agility and you'll get reverse pancaked without strength at LG.

The biggest difference to me is that the LG *needs* 68 agility, where I'm actually not even considering it for my RG.

If you want to discuss piece by piece..

strength: 73 for RG, 68 for LG
blocking: 68 for both
agility: 68 for LG, 60 for RG
speed: 60/68 for RG, possibly 60 for LG but not a priority
vision: 60 for RG, 48 for LG
confidence: early 48 for LG (will gain toward 60), late 48 for RG (will stick in low 50s)
stamina: not a difference
SAs: LG will want foundation, saw good results with this before. RG will want run block and get low. I wouldn't do hands, because you aren't consistently wearing down the same defender all game.
VAs: LG should do pass blocker first, RG should just do +0.5% blocking first as it impacts the run which is way more important. Then switch and do the others after that
Equip: 100% str for RG. Move a piece (or two?) to blocking for a LG.


Obviously a lot could be geared differently toward your team's running philosophy. I'm building my RG to be like 105 strength, 85 blocking, 70 speed, 60 agility, 60 vision, 50 confidence, 40 stamina, 14 get low

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I pretty much 100% agree with this.

They're completely different. The LG goes against (usually) agile, faster DTs on every play. RGs go against NTs on every play. That should be enough to decipher the differences.

Originally posted by Kayoh
They're completely different. The LG goes against (usually) agile, faster DTs on every play. RGs go against NTs on every play. That should be enough to decipher the differences.

many teams build strong guys on both sides though, so you can't put anyone too weak on either G position

Right. Agility based DTs will go to 68 strength, and will easily gain towards 80. Even without equipment, an 80 strength, 75 speed, 110 agility DT can easily reverse pancake an 80 strength, 100 blocking, 70 agility LG. I think outside of getting your agility up to 70, the LG still needs to focus on strength, as pumping blocking hasn't proven to really help you man up on the line. I'd go with split equip, and shoot for something like 90/90 instead.

The o-line must have a strength advantage on anybody they will face. 10+ more, I'd say. DEs will have 75, DTs 80+, NTs 110+.

Originally posted by Kayoh
They're completely different. The LG goes against (usually) agile, faster DTs on every play. RGs go against NTs on every play. That should be enough to decipher the differences.

I disagree the RG does a lot of pulling

the thing I wonder about is vision on the OL..... I would think you can see the guy right in front of you and even the guy you need to block on the outside

well in the skills guide thread all the different attributes it says that "It's also sort of the "6th sense" of predicting what your opponent is going to do when blocking". though it also says that blocking helps break blocks easier. maybe it would help with picking up a blitzing LB early? then again if you have high agility you can move into the lb's way just before it gets by you

Originally posted by Brownseq9
Originally posted by Kayoh

They're completely different. The LG goes against (usually) agile, faster DTs on every play. RGs go against NTs on every play. That should be enough to decipher the differences.

I disagree the RG does a lot of pulling

Different sides of the same coin. This is a question of run vs. pass. That said, it's silly to me to make yourself one dimensional and "go against the NT on every play." Someone needs a new OC.