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smittdog101
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Originally posted by r8
In regards to the depth chart thing:

Originally posted by Bort

I think I found the problem. Fix uploaded to test server; will need a check through to make sure.


Test:

Set both teams Offense to run anything out of the I Form, and both defense to run a 4-3 coverage type play. Set the NT1 to "VeryAgile DE" who isn't used anywhere else on the depth chart.

Set 4-3 to use the NT1 slot under the Formations tab, and within the output for the DAI.

http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=824 - Everything worked fine.

Same game, but Formations tab is set to NT, leaving it solely to the DAI.

http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=825 - Everything worked fine again


so when will this be fixed live? We are talking about custom slots for Custom plays right? There are also some issues in the man progression. http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2520512
Last edited Apr 19, 2009 13:02:34
 
timthorn
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Originally posted by smittdog101

so when will this be fixed live? We are talking about custom slots for Custom plays right? There are also some issues in the man progression. http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2520512


This update was apart of yesterday's change log, so it should be working today. Yes, we are talking about using the custom player slots with the custom/preset plays.
 
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I posted a problem on the regular servers... http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2523214&page=last#21380186

Can someone test this on the test servers? I have the two safeties in deep zones (half each, obviously). Then the five leftover players in coverage covering Under Fifths. The Under Strong Fifth always moves towards the QB rather than back into his zone.
 
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http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=561&pbp_id=145633
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EaglesFan66
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Originally posted by Bort
Just checked it out, and the under 5th zone was defined incorrectly. I've fixed it, but any plays that are using it and don't work properly will need to be loaded and re-saved to use the new definition. I need to write a script to reload all plays and resave them in case of something like this, but I haven't gotten to it yet, so if you want to update your plays before then, just load them and re-click save.


Thanks KCMOFALCON
 
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I have been noticing that players are not reading their man coverages in todays sims. They were doing this fine prior to today. Now if their man does not run a route they just sit in a zone even if they are set to blitz.

Example:
The MLB had two man assignements which were the FB > HB > Blitz but he did not blitz.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=553714&pbp_id=1763468
 
r8
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Originally posted by AngryDragon
I have been noticing that players are not reading their man coverages in todays sims. They were doing this fine prior to today. Now if their man does not run a route they just sit in a zone even if they are set to blitz.

Example:
The MLB had two man assignements which were the FB > HB > Blitz but he did not blitz.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=553714&pbp_id=1763468


LBs are no longer omniscient, they can't automatically tell if their guy is going out on a route or not. The MLB likely just failed the vision check to tell that the HB/FB was staying in to block.
 
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Originally posted by r8


LBs are no longer omniscient, they can't automatically tell if their guy is going out on a route or not. The MLB likely just failed the vision check to tell that the HB/FB was staying in to block.


But he shouldn't stay that long no seing anything ?

Is it only one vision check and if the player fails... too bad.
Or is there a vision check on each tick ? If so is it the same check ? It seems obvious that the roll should be easier each time.

On this play the MLB seats there for a long time. Way too long. I agree that they shouldn't be omniscient, but they shouldn't be blind either
 
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Originally posted by ClemUSA
Originally posted by r8



LBs are no longer omniscient, they can't automatically tell if their guy is going out on a route or not. The MLB likely just failed the vision check to tell that the HB/FB was staying in to block.


But he shouldn't stay that long no seing anything ?

Is it only one vision check and if the player fails... too bad.
Or is there a vision check on each tick ? If so is it the same check ? It seems obvious that the roll should be easier each time.

On this play the MLB seats there for a long time. Way too long. I agree that they shouldn't be omniscient, but they shouldn't be blind either


I agree that LBs with 60+ vision seem to be taking way too long to go through their reads and move to pick up a guy they are assigned to.
 
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Originally posted by AngryDragon
I have been noticing that players are not reading their man coverages in todays sims. They were doing this fine prior to today. Now if their man does not run a route they just sit in a zone even if they are set to blitz.

Example:
The MLB had two man assignements which were the FB > HB > Blitz but he did not blitz.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=553714&pbp_id=1763468


We have had the same problem the last 2 games. The first game we did not use any created plays. It is a level 13 capped team so no one has 60+ vision.

Originally posted by r8
LBs are no longer omniscient, they can't automatically tell if their guy is going out on a route or not. The MLB likely just failed the vision check to tell that the HB/FB was staying in to block.


Has there been tests to see if this is working correctly or is this speculation?



 
Joe Buck
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Originally posted by r8

LBs are no longer omniscient, they can't automatically tell if their guy is going out on a route or not. The MLB likely just failed the vision check to tell that the HB/FB was staying in to block.




And isnt this only half the problem of all-knowing LB's. Just as bad is them knowing whether it is run or not. And correct me if I'm wrong but a LB on a run play will line up where you dragged his dot to, and if its a pass play he lines up directly across his man.

 
PinTBC
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Actually it would be relatively handy to know what Bort thinks is a good number for vision to make this check.

Not Bort would actually let anyone know... If it is 60 - 65, then there is something badly wrong with his code.

PinTBC
 
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Originally posted by sbuck143
Originally posted by r8


LBs are no longer omniscient, they can't automatically tell if their guy is going out on a route or not. The MLB likely just failed the vision check to tell that the HB/FB was staying in to block.




And isnt this only half the problem of all-knowing LB's. Just as bad is them knowing whether it is run or not. And correct me if I'm wrong but a LB on a run play will line up where you dragged his dot to, and if its a pass play he lines up directly across his man.




the lb stays right where you put him. say you have your rolb positioned right at the line and he is set m2m with the te. he will move all the way across the line to cover the te if he goes out for a pass
 
tautology
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Originally posted by PinTBC
Actually it would be relatively handy to know what Bort thinks is a good number for vision to make this check.

Not Bort would actually let anyone know... If it is 60 - 65, then there is something badly wrong with his code.

PinTBC


He'll make the check eventually....higher vision will just help make it more quickly.

As for the failure to blitz, I have seen this behavior in past seasons as well.

My speculation has always been that if the blitzer fails to get a good jump, or is blitzing from far away, they will sometimes determine that they have no chance to be an effective blitzer and try to drop into coverage somewhere.

Can't say for certain, but blitzers bailing out of a blitz is not a new phenomenon...it just requires certain circumstances to see it happen.
Last edited Apr 23, 2009 01:20:44
 
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Also, the amount of potential delay with reasonable vision does seem a bit much...might cut it by 25% or so?
 
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