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Well ladies and gentlemen, I'm not sure how much longer you'll have to worry about the East Cairo Argonauts. With whatever changes Bort has made to the game--YET AGAIN--it seems we are no longer a halfway decent team at all, and surely not worthy of our 7-2 record.

Apparently a team that has had only 1 fumble all season long is now shitty enough to have 4 of them in one game. Apparently a team that has never given up more than 37 points in a regular season game is now bad enough to give up 76. Apparently the team that has had the LEAST missed tackles in the conference for 2 years running is capable of allowing plays like THIS to happen: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=398290&pbp_id=10034019 I am the lone OC/DC of the team, and I'm afraid I'm unwilling to put any more of my precious time into a game that the maker(s) are constantly changing.

To some extent I understand Bort's wanting to 'improve' the game on many levels, but I don't find it acceptable to start making the changes he's made halfway through a season--especially in leagues with higher-level players who level much more slowly and who will take weeks of real-time to correct build flaws. I also remember his poll that we all took part in last season, voting whether or not we wanted more realism or more inflated stats in this game, and I believe a vast majority voted for realism.

Tell me, what is realistic about a guy breaking 5 tackles in one play like the replay I posted above!!??

I now understand the Passion Fruits' frustration when they went up against the Pancake Machine earlier this season.

Up until this point I have enjoyed matching wits with opposing teams' coordinators, and have never regretted the hours I've put into gameplanning and strategizing. That all stops today. The Eat Cairo Argonauts you all face in the days/weeks to come will not be the same Argonauts.

I know there are some of you who may feel that I'm being a pussy and copping out after receiving a thorough asskicking, and you're certainly entitled to your opinions--but they won't change anything.

It's been fun.

It's been as real as an online game can be.

I love you all.

Good night.

don't quit dumbass. i don't think bort even added anything to increase fumble chance. before your game they forced 9 fumbles through 6 non-gutted games. 4 fumbles was a mixture of you running 70% of the time and them outleveling you by 15 across the board, with a bit or terrible luck on the side.

you got beat way worse than you should have in a game that was in no way indicative of how close you are in ability to kobenhaven, just like we lost way worse than we should have against the vikings. we didn't quit though, we just bitched for a while, and now we're tearing ass through some BBB2 guys.

at least give it through the parma or pf game. i really doubt you'll see the same outcome again, not anywhere near as extreme at least.

or if you do quit bring some of your players to pf (if they don't suck (and if we need them))

e: you also got powerbacked. happens to the best of us, nothing you can do about it except wait for bort to fix it. slightly above average build + 10 level advantage + powerback + random rare god mode roll = that replay you linked. very similar things have happened to our big boy team against the better powerbacks in that league, and they don't even outlevel us (http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=376974&pbp_id=6716867).

What you guys don't like pancakes?

Originally posted by Lambda
i don't think bort even added anything to increase fumble chance.

Ya they did.

And quitting is an option I guess. TBH I considered it at the end of last season, or at least cutting down my dedication to my teams. But I realized that I just have to play the game that I enjoy playing, if Bort changes something like he has, that's out of my power and I have to roll with it.

Playing ringer teams is inevitable, and it just sucks that the sole reason you lose a game is because another persons player was created before yours, but like I said, that's part of the game and we have to deal with it. Bitching is fine, hell even some from PF were after our first game of the season, but you have to realize that a loss like that means absolutely nothing. If our team back then or your team today was anywhere near the opponents level the outcome would have been MUCH different.

It sucks that there isn't stricter caps or control over levels in a league, but that's the way it is. Just think of it this way - the levels of some of these guys are similar to our team we have in AAA, and they're in A. It ain't you guys. Be the team that doesn't need the level advantage to compete, as both of our teams have proven is possible.

I typed all that out on a blackberry and now my fingers hurt.

mcgovern,

This is the first season that my team has been in a league with you/ECA and I know you've made it much more enjoyable to play GLB. I hope you don't throw in the towel over tonight's game.

Eric

Originally posted by Lambda
slightly above average build + 10 level advantage + powerback + random rare god mode roll = that replay you linked.

The truth has been spoken. Happens to us from time to time as well. I mean today for instance we had 15 broken tackles against us. Seriously.....wouldn't you expect if you were playing a team that you out leveled by that much. To just totally walk all over them? I know I would tbh.....

Hey mcgovern you think you got it bad? We lost to fucking Stalingrad. They have one hell of a fumble causing MLB, that Nosebleed guy busted our ass all day. At this point we are resigned to missing the playoffs and just trying to get a leg up on recruiting.

Originally posted by merenoise
Hey mcgovern you think you got it bad? We lost to fucking Stalingrad. They have one hell of a fumble causing MLB, that Nosebleed guy busted our ass all day. At this point we are resigned to missing the playoffs and just trying to get a leg up on recruiting.


That bastard made us cough up a few in our game as well. My Power Back Bo Jackson....rarely.....fumbles and he coughed it up that game. That guy is a pain in the ass

I for one would sure hate like hell to see ECA throw in the towel.

Why is it always the new teams that whine?
Anyway, level difference has very little impact. Last year 2 newly promoted teams made the championship...and they were both out-leveled. Also look at the Bavarian Motor Works team. They have been out leveled all year and they are kicking butt.

Also a team that has been in the league for a few years and never been promoted should be penalized by kicking all their players who remained loyal off the team? I've stuck with the viks for a few seasons and we were on the verge of a championship when our owner had to quit playing and we basically got gutted. So we had to start from scratch again, yet I stuck with the team. And now it is unfair because a newly promoted team comes in and loses 2 out of 9 games?

Finch, look at the top of both conferences, then look at your thesis again. Perhaps you would care to reformulate with fresh data?

Something along the lines of, "While certainly a strong factor in success, level difference alone will not guarantee wins and losses."

There. We're done arguing, right?

Like faedie says, the only one to blame really is Bort for not having stricter caps. It is a tad irksome, though, when the board gets flooded with teeny boppers crowing about shutting down grade schoolers in the paint. Mutumbo wagging his finger at Gary Coleman. Watchootalkinbout Dikimbe?

You can cap all you want, but Finch is right... is it fair to split up a bunch of loyal guys?
We finally have a good team, but yea its probably because we have sucked for a while and now its our time to shine.

Yea we out level just about everyone now, but if we manage to win or be one of the top teams then we will be promoted and off to a new level. Go back 2 or 3 seasons in this league and we were the ones that were out leveled by everyone else. In 2 or 3 seasons you will be the ones who are out leveling everyone else.

Its the way the system works... we went through it and tried to play and are finally at the top, you will be too.

Lets see who is complaining in a few seasons... as i doubt it will be the ones complaining now.

Originally posted by finchfan0

Why is it always the new teams that whine?
Anyway, level difference has very little impact. Last year 2 newly promoted teams made the championship...and they were both out-leveled. Also look at the Bavarian Motor Works team. They have been out leveled all year and they are kicking butt.

Also a team that has been in the league for a few years and never been promoted should be penalized by kicking all their players who remained loyal off the team? I've stuck with the viks for a few seasons and we were on the verge of a championship when our owner had to quit playing and we basically got gutted. So we had to start from scratch again, yet I stuck with the team. And now it is unfair because a newly promoted team comes in and loses 2 out of 9 games?



One of the newly promoted teams that made the Championship from last season pretty much brought in an entirely new roster.

Aside from that fact I mean we don't have a ton to whine about, despite being one of the lower level Alpha teams we're still sitting at 8-1. I did an average level break down for my team at the start of the season and we were the 7th lowest level Alpha team in WEA. I have no gripe with the Vikings or any other team that remains loyal and gets a bit stacked level wise. I think the main gripe is with the SIM itself, there seems to be an issue this season when there's a level disparity. Not to harp on your team too much, but I can guarantee you that despite being higher level your builds aren't all that superior. The pancake fest that happened week 1 was something I've never seen before and with the builds we have on our DTs/NTs that should have never taken place. That wasn't the only issue with that game, but I'm not going to make a bunch of excuses.

You're confuzzled. A ringer, by definition, is not a player who has grown up on your team. You two are smearing issues around like bright finger paint. Kicking players off and such. Who would advocate such a thing?

I agree, though, that promotion/relegation movement helps to mitigate the balance issues inherent to pseudo-caps.

Although it sucks to lose and I feel pissed off for about a day after each game we lose (which is most of them this season) I have to agree with mitt and finch. This season Ingolstadt management didn't expect to immediately compete for a championship and expected to take our lumps to teams who had been in the league for one or more seasons. We were hoping to make the playoffs for the third year in a row and now that is just a pipe dream thanks to my failure as an OC and some bad breaks. Still we expect to be back next season re-tuned and with fire in our bellies.

mcgovern, I have a ton of respect for you as a player builder, game planner, and forum trash talker and I gotta tell you I would be very disappointed if you packed it in because of the business as usual overhaul that the sim gets two or more times a season. I didn't think quitting was in your make-up. I hope this is just you crying about a result you didn't like, ala my crying after the Torpedo game.